That kid 100% believes in the protest and is lying because he knows his mom will go off the rails if he’s honest.
Big respect to them for seeing the truth of things, and not losing their morality, when getting raised in such an obviously hostile and hateful environment.
It’s why so many parents want to have home schooling. Some have legitimate complaints about the failings of the public school system, but from what I can tell most in the US just wasn’t to be able to brain wash their kids better without outside stimuli messing it up.
This was my thought as well
Amsterdam pogrom
lol these freaks leave their fascist occupation state for a few days to commit violent hate crimes in Amsterdam against gentiles (that look “Arab”, I wonder why) and then call it a pogrom. Truly delusional.
Yeah wasn’t that one started by a zionist hooligan mob and crowds formed to fight back against them terrorizing the community?
Yes, that’s correct. I’m not sure about the crowds in response, actually, all the video I saw was zionist hooligans marauding about the city doing violence against anyone who looked Arab and threatening anyone with a camera.
Oh yeah you should look up the videos of zionists swimming in canals being made to say “free Palestine”. It’s good for your soul.
Woof i tried to look up the videos and it’s full of zionist propaganda
Some football hooligans fucking around and finding out counts as a PoGrOm now, apparently 🙄
Pretty offensive to all the people who were actually killed in pogroms, I’d say.
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100% chance this kid fucking despises “Israel” and has easily convinced his delusional parent that he’s just hanging with his friends.
I swear mom that’s not my conscience I’m just holding it for a friend.
“No, mom, I swear I’m a bad person! You have to believe me!”
Well, you tried reasoning with him. Maybe try guilt? Whenever I was insistent on doing something my mother didn’t like she would get a good cry going and ask why I hated her so much. It never worked, but I did feel slightly bad when I did it anyway.
That sub is either a social experiment or a psyop, or zionists are just that deranged
Maybe try guilt?.. It never worked
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liberalism.
Lol dude come on, did nick mullen write that
Have you tried shrilly shouting “What? What? Whaaaaatt???!!!” My mother would do this whenever confronted with the blatant antisemitism of my school friend. Although he would insist that she “respect his authoritie.”
Maybe try guilt?
God I hate manipulative people; I’ve known people like this and I hated it when they behaved like this
Jesus christ thats got to be a fundie pretending to be jewish based on stereotypes
I saw my mom at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told her I was going out with friends to be at a rally and didn’t want to be left out, and I didn’t believe in what the event stood for, and that I wasn’t antisemitic, she said, “Oh, like you are right now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her crying as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in her hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “mam, you need to pay for those first.” At first she kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, she stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, she kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
It’s the latter.
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Amsterdam
These people are eternal victims. That wasn’t a pogrom you pieces of shit.
The crowd of Israeli soccer fans shouting “Death to Arabs” and “There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children” were victims of a pogrom.
“There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children”
I’m not being pedantic for the sake of pedantry, but what they said was “because there are no children left”; they’re celebrating that they’ve killed the children of Gaza (I make this distinction because without the word ‘left’ it sounds like they don’t believe there are children there; it’s instead because they’re celebrating killing children)
You’re right, I guess I blocked it out.
These people are so deluded, that the mere thought of a muslim person is like an actual attack on them. They cannot exist in an equal society.
huge hug to our Jewish comrades who have to be subjected to these brainworms on the regularIt’s cool, obviously antisemitism is shitty, but compared to what’s happening to the Palestinians right now I really don’t give a fuck.
“Huge hug to our white comrades who have to be subjected to the brainworms of Nazi family members”
You do realize there are Jews that are not European right? Like what the actual anti-semitic fuck?!
That comment was VERY clearly directed at Jewish comrades that have to deal with the shit YOU are fucking perpetuating.
You should be fuckin ashamed of yourself.
I think there are two things here that are true at the same time. One, Israel despite its claims isn’t synonymous with Judaism. And two, most Jews love and support Zionism. It’s kind of like whiteness and white people I think.
I do not think it is most Jewish people, that’s a bold claim
I think it’s just a brute fact that most Jewish people are Zionists and you can fact check me on the global polling if you want. FWIW I’m including squishy libbed up two state solution Zionism as Zionism, because it is Zionism.
Cool it with the “brute facts” man. “Global Polling” is funded by think-tanks. Who do you think those are funded by? The bourgeoisie. The Elites of Israel, the U.S. and every colonized land are the same. Meanwhile the proletariat are the only ones who pay the price of scapegoating religious and ethnic groups. I understand your reservations about Israel being included in a two-state solution, but you sound like a “squishy” fed.
This is the same argument people use to say Chinese people actually hate their government. Generally I’m inclined to believe polling that has transparent and sound methodology even I don’t like the results.
It’s creepy to me that you think this position warrants fedjacketing.
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If you wanna call people Feds for believing polling ok I guess but it’s a you problem.
The Elites of Israel, the U.S. and every colonized land are the same.
Not when you consider global hegemony, resource extraction and what proletariat benefits from another. Despite your dismissal, the support of Israel amongst most Jewish people is no different to me than the significant amount of Catholics who believe in atrocious policies regarding abortion, childbirth, etc. Of course, the political topics are different; but there is a overwhelming, prevalent culture of believing in “divine” moral paradigms from birth. Like abortion is wrong, Israel has a right to exist and belongs to their holy land, etc.
Regardless, the proletariat in Israel and the United States are a part of the imperial core; having much more in relation to their oppressing class than the proletariat of the global majority whom their land, resources and people are exploited, extracted and used on a scale far larger than anywhere in the core. American and Israeli citizens aren’t being wrapped up in a genocide.
the proletariat are the only ones who pay the price of scapegoating religious and ethnic groups.
There’s a litany of reasons to criticize every religious belief on this planet; but christianity and judaism as well as Islam have deserved plenty of it. Pointing out the decades of religious indoctrination, propaganda from the bourgeoise in Israel and America and fundamentalism isn’t scape-goating. It’s the “brute facts” that seemingly touched a “nerve” of yours. Jews are of many cultures and their religion and ethnic groups aren’t inherently tied.
two-state solution
There is only one state, Palestine. Imagine someone saying this about Ireland. Israel as a genocidal and religious state should not exist. No religious state should exist. Most Jews indigenous to the region/semitic are treated as second-class citizens.
Hey dude I’m not reading all that oblique trigger-worded bullshit. Conflating Judaism with Israel means you’re buying into bourgeoisie ethnostate propaganda. Every fucking rightoid shithead has a similar mentality as you. You know where this shit leads? Check your phone.
Nobody here is conflating Judaism with Israel. We all know those are two different things. What we are doing is looking at polling about support for Israel among Jews and the result is not good.
Conflating Judaism with Israel means you’re buying into bourgeoisie ethnostate propaganda
“conflating abortion propaganda with Christians that make up the majority of the country, rule the country and in a nation with a long history of Christian violence means you’re buying into bourgeoisie ethnostate propaganda”
Hey dude I’m not reading / >Every fucking rightoid shithead has a similar mentality as you.
Can you read? If so, you’d maybe discover why rightoids have a bit of a different philosophy. But I suppose if you want to be mentally infantile you can just group stuff together based on the category of “I don’t like it and I don’t wanna read it”. Very easy way to live life which explains why you’re saying half the shit you are!
It’s scapegoating to say polling suggests religious people support the ethnostate that professes to be theirs?
Yeah if that shit is funded by bourgeois think tanks that have a vested interest in colonization you fucking idiot.
So you have no evidence that most Jews oppose Israel because all data is conspiracy?
Hard to get a great answer but nearly half of all Jews live in Israel where support for the genocide is near universal and whenever you see polling of various Jewish diaspora communities there tend to be a lot of Zionists. It’s highly likely that it is at least a plurality if not a strict majority of Jewish people that are Zionists.
Do you have statistics that say that most Jewish people don’t support Israel? People critique polls but rarely provide alternative evidence to the math Blakey brought up
I didn’t see anyone show math here, it was a vibes based statement, If there are numbers I’ll look at em
Pre 10/7, but useful
UK
A new poll dropped today from WaPo
Yeah, no good. Sorry for bombarding you, I just didn’t want to seem like I was talking out of my ass
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The hasbara isn’t even working on my captive child I’ve had 16 years to indoctrinate, plz advise
They’re calling it some other word now, I forgot what, though. And it’s deeply unfair to Jews who don’t hold the same opinions who are also experiencing hate crimes by other people who can’t separate Judaism from Zionism.
Sailing on a boat to a place that Isn’t Israel is now antisemitic
But I stole it unfair and square!
I have to wonder whether these people are being cynical or if they actually believe
- that support for a genocide is an inextricable part of Jewish identity
- that because it’s part of Jewish identity and Jews have historically been oppressed, any opposition to said genocide is oppression
Their minds have been melted by a complete zionist takeover of all their cultural and community organizations, combined with a weaponized Holocaust education meant to re-traumatize every new generation as much as possible. They’ve been made to feel they’re under siege no matter what is actually happening.
Zionists, Jewish & Christian, don’t believe Israel’s war on Gaza to be genocide because they consider any detraction to be anti-Semitic propaganda even if Israeli groups like B’tselem, associated Israeli or Jewish groups, or even the verbatim words of Israeli politicians and media figures expressing genocidal intent in very obvious terms and statements.
It’s telling that when Dershowitz was confronted with one of the ICC prosecutors being a Jewish holocaust survivor that Dershowitz dismissed him not as anti-Semitic but as merely mistaken.
It is unsaid but very obvious, that Israeli politics revolve around the notion that the existence of Palestinian people in their historic homeland is anti-Semitic, and therefore worthy of annihilation by violence or displacement.
A family member I know has a zionist friend like this. I heard them whining about their neice supposedly being “anti-semitic” (they’re Jewish too obviously) because they don’t unquestionably support Israel.
Most zionists believe that if you do not support Israel, you’re basically a Nazi.
the associative power of the human mind is wild. You can pair unlike or mutually exclusive ideas and over time the two become conceptually inseparable to most people. that’s kinda how so much stuff ends up going too, because it’s such a useful tool for the power hungry
the words for it is equivocation
I think actually it’s cognitive dissonance (because the two beliefs are conflicting)
EDIT: Actually I just realized you probably meant the original post, not the guy you were directly responding to
No I’m responding directly. The purposeful conflation of terms to muddy definitions and confuse the argument is called equivocation
Cognitive dissonance is a psychology phenomenon where people separate contradicting ideas they hold and place a barrier between them in their mind to avoid ever thinking of both at the same time because it causes pain, the same type of mental discomfort we experience when we are confronted with being wrong about something.
Kind of the opposite of what they were discussing, where multiple things get shoved into one amorphous blob.
Ah, thanks, I misunderstood you
Omg literally 1984
Honestly speaking, I think it’s just old fashioned colonialism and racism; the zionists in Israel took the land and the people they consider subhuman (Arabs) don’t have equal human rights and thus they don’t have the right to fight for their homes and for justice because that would require them to first believe Arabs are human beings. As for identifying with the Jews living in Israel, I think that’s just simply identifying with people who share a similar identity with you. If they saw Arabs as human beings, I think they’d have a harder time supporting Israel; it doesn’t help that media constantly, constantly, CONSTANTLY demonizes non-Western countries; it’s basically the reason people are fine with war crimes and interventions in non-Western countries but blow a gasket if something similar was attempted against us.
I think it’s a bit of both.
it’s the same as any other fascist cause. they’re constantly angry and they always have to be the victim. WASP manosphere types genuinely think that putting black people in commercials is an attack on them personally. why should zionists be any different?
these people are such freaks, my god. unending victim complex
lol when our Nazi freaks go and assault Arabs in Netherlands, it’s actually a pogrom
My child is hamas
wow his kid doesnt even believe in the event and is just going to look like he has a shred of humanity in him which he doesnt apparently and thats STILL not being big enough of a nazi for his dad.
his weirdo little shit is being disrespectful to the cause by showing up just to look like hes not a zionist demon and the dad wants him to be even more extreme
his weirdo little shit is being disrespectful to the cause by showing up just to look like hes not a zionist demon and the dad wants him to be even more extreme
If this is real, it’s almost certain he does support the cause and is lying to his parents. The type of psychological damage that zionists do to themselves have wouldn’t allow them to feel safe in a protest like that, they think they’re always right about to be attacked.
Honestly this reply makes a lot of sense; I’ve not read of a single pro-zionist who’d ever go to one of these things, let alone have friends who’d participate in such an event
Ya he just doesn’t want to have to deal with the fall out from his parents. Probably has given up on convincing his mom and is just going to coast through the next couple of years living with her until college.
At which point if it’s anything like the US, the parents will blame the college for turning him liberal.
Isn’t this written by his mother?
Oh, is it? Not sure why I thought it was the father. I’ll correct my comment. Thanks.
Yeah, I know what that feels like. There’s some topics where I’ll just leave the room when it comes up, because the argument with my dad will be a complete waste of time and energy, and I’d rather not have my mom know I’m a genuine communist, not just an edgy social democrat who likes Soviet symbolism and winding Dad up about the Cold War.
Yep. I live with two children of the Cold War and I’ve been a communist pretty much ever since I knew what that word meant. I’ve said things like that to avoid all kinds of political fallout at home.
This is what I was thinking, although we obviously can’t know for sure.
wow his kid doesnt even believe in the event and is just going to look like he has a shred of humanity in him which he doesnt apparently and thats STILL not being big enough of a nazi for his dad.
Wait, isn’t the OP the mother? Or I guess the son could have two dads.
I am Jewish and the father of my son is not.
Fuck these people into the dirt
