This also would have been during the Civil Rights wave in America. Where the USSR was screaming at us for daring to treat our people that way, while doing worse to black people throughout their lands.
Number ONE:
That’s terror.
This is just a veil for white supremacy, they assume everyone else is as evil as the US empire in order to continue justifying support for it. They made it the fuck up, because they need it to be true for their worldview to function. Disgusting.
Sorta like that whole “I’m just saying what everyone’s thinking” thing. Easier to believe everyone is just like you but repressed rather than realize you’re just a shitty person
Where the USSR was screaming at us for daring to treat our people that way, while doing worse to black people throughout their lands.
Lying fuckin libs
Reminds me of that lib from a few days ago. “Uhh sure China hasn’t killed a single Uyghur, but actually what’s happening to them is worse than death!”
Meanwhile the same libs will hem and haw about how somehow Gaza is complicated. They only pretend to care about racism when it benefits them, beyond that they fully support it
Lol what? Do they think there was a russian chapter of the KKK?
“well, WE had the KKK, and WE’RE the good guys, so of course the BAD GUYS had an even worse KKK!”
They had the KKKK
Now I’m imagining a Chinese reactionary going “well, WE have the CCP, and WE’RE the good gays, so of course the BAD gays had an even worse CCCP”
It is weird to think of someone being close to right for wrong reasons
D:
Like the regular KKK but with goatees and mustaches
Levayan satanists?
The Ku Klux KlanAryaNazis
After the abolishment of court arabs (pretty sure that was the title) I don’t think there were that many black people in the Soviet Union, and the few that were around didn’t have crosses burned in their yard.
There were a bunch of Africans coming there to get a university degree. This is worse than segregation actually
Google AI is uniquely useless in searching for this, “court arabs Russia” brings up nonsense about Russia discriminating against muslims, similar nonsense for ussr, and ““court arab” USSR” has it go “google AI can’t do this”
it seems to be spelled arap, there still isnt much english info but african servants were a common thing in all the european monarchies
I pretty much got my question answered with the wiki page on the Arabian hall though, basically just four gaudily dressed bodyguards who pretty much were the official door openers preceding the tsar
Try Jim Hercules, I think he had the title and I do remember that name.
Idk i see some people talk about “court arabs” but the wiki page for the Arabian hall and some others just refer to them as “Ethiopians” (in quotes because they weren’t lol) or “Blackamoors” and then one site i was looking at talking about Jim Hercules called them “the Abyssinian guard”
It doesn’t really matter though i was just like “what” and wanted to know what sort of role or function a “court Arab” did but the tl;dr seems to be that they opened doors for the Tsar and Tsarina
I may have remembered the title wrong. But i was pretty sure. Darn
I saw other people use the phrase so idk lol
Let’s agree that the court title was an ethnicity and that it has no relation to the person holding it, that way we’re clear
I fucking hate libs
I saw something not in English and it was TERRIFYING
The two genders of language: English and scary
Hi mom I’m on TV
Westerners when you tell them the not perfect worker state is less racist than the state based on slavery and genocide
Sure thing Ivan, I hope you got paid enough rubles to buy a borscht!
You’re telling me that the country which enslaved people based on their ethnicity, only formally ended that practice 160 years ago (to say nothing of prison labor that goes on to this day), and then ostracized them, brutalized them, and generally still treated them as subhuman through all means legal and otherwise until it was codified into law to be illegal to do so just 60 fucking years ago but still regularly shits itself anytime a piece of media has a nonwhite person anywhere in it…is racist?
Is every subreddit with “cringe” in the name hyper-reactionary?
cringe culture is inherently a little bit fashy
Yes, disgust is one of the emotions most highly correlated with reactionary thought. That is as theory predicts
cringe, that is to say expressing your gut reaction without any attempt at empathy or self-reflection, is reactionary.
I cringed when two girls asked me about joining their pro life club today
Sounds like you reacted to something, reactionary.
Stoicism, ergo, is the true Marxist philosophy
Marxism is inherently reactionary because it reacts to material conditions
Only the dead have seen the end of reaction, on account of no more nervous system
Shitting is inherently reactionary because it reacts to me eating way too many microwave bean burritos
ughhhh
This is why i don’t read, so i have nothing to react to
bullying is bad
"well I bullied a nazi "I couldn’t bully them because i work there and if they made a big deal about me being mean id get fired 😔
capitalism no free speech
ya dawg
there’s a really bizarre wave of USSR apologism and revisionism on tiktok right now,
Probably a Russian psyop or something like that […]
Seems pretty on brand Putin would be spearheading something like this with his troll/bot farms. I mean, the man is set on conquest and admires Stalin, probably wants the USSR back as well. He does miss it
Yup, Russia is now being sold as pro-christian-family-values-anti-woke culture.
Scary as fuck, we’re basically occupied by Russia and the Trumpers are going to start cheering as we become Russia’s theoretical “51st state.”
Scary as fuck, we’re basically occupied by Russia and the Trumpers are going to start cheering as we become Russia’s theoretical “51st state.”
Yea totally, Russia is the “51st state”.
I think it’s even sillier than that. The lib thinks Burgerland is at risk of becoming Russia’s “51st state”.
47th Oblast
Feels like we’re in some tiny medieval European country and people are accusing the king of being controlled by evil eastern sorcery from the rival kingdom, and that’s why the crops have withered
https://xcancel.com/leiasrue/status/1567600113685512193
every… single… time…
Funny, I feel like all of those things actually happened in the past decade with the blessing of the mighty God Emperors of
It’s your standard Lib spiel
Russia bad, ontologically evil in a way that defies reality
Scary as fuck, we’re basically occupied by Russia and the Trumpers are going to start cheering as we become Russia’s theoretical “51st state.”
I would like to think this person is aware that other countries don’t have 50 states in them, but also based on what they’ve said, I’m honestly not sure. They might actually think that every country functions exactly like America in every way, except that they are either “good” or “bad”.
Charitably, they put “51st state” in quotes because they realize Russia at least doesn’t have 50 equivalent analogues to states and are just using it as a shorthand for Russia taking control of the US and adding it to the Russian Federation as an oblast or something.
Yeah, they probably didn’t actually think that Russia had 50 states. Still, it is notable that their example of “Russian conquest” is to use a common refrain people in the US have about conquering other countries. There’s no country more bloodthirsty than the US, and they think that every country other than them is more bloodthirsty.
They cannot imagine themselves losing any comparison. They exist at the apex of development. Post industrial liberal democracy. The end of history. You cannot critically analyze what we did to get us here because this is how it’s supposed to be.
The
is their historical analysis persona.The USSR was definitely less-anti-black (by which I mean it basically wasn’t anti-black, as multiple African Americans who visited there attested), but there was surely some element of racial chauvinism in the policies that involved internally deporting ethnic groups.
Edit: Even if you want to give them a pass on the Volga Germans because Austria gave them a concerning precedent, internally-deporting Koreans on the basis that they might become Japanese spies is just ridiculous.
Edit: Even if you want to give them a pass on the Volga Germans because Austria gave them a concerning precedent, internally-deporting Koreans on the basis that they might become Japanese spies is just ridiculous.
These actions did not occur because of racism. They occurred because of national-cultural concerns as well as internal security concerns.
I’m interested in the national-cultural concerns, but the “internal security” concern is exactly what I am citing as functionally being racism, on a similar basis to the Japanese internment camps in America being “internal security” but functionally racism.
It is important to understand the distinction between ethnic discrimination / xenophobia and racism.
There have been issues with the former across time, but it is not the same as contemporary racism in the Americas and western world in general.
You are at best being a pedant, because I don’t really give a shit here if it’s based on blood quanta (it was not) or something else. It was still a crass generalization of an entire
raceethnic group, impugning on their characters and mistreating them in a manner that can only be justified by chauvinism and killing thousands in the process.Nothing pedantic about it. You are just misusing terms, and getting weirdly hostile when corrected about it, but go off I guess.
Honestly conflating the idea of “race” and ethnic group like you just did is so anti-materialist, it’s remarkable you ever wandered into this space.
Honestly conflating the idea of “race” and ethnic group like you just did is so anti-materialist, it’s remarkable you ever wandered into this space.
Does the enlightened Marxist have an argument or do they only have conclusions?
Lmao
The soviet treatment of many different ethnic minorities is very much worthy of criticism, I don’t think any one here would argue with you on that.
It’s just not racism, and conflating the two isn’t just wrong, it actively undermines trying to understand specific social reasons for why these prejudices come about, which is why I called it anti-materialist.
I started with lmao though, because I don’t need an argument, you’re a grown person who should be capable of a small correction on definitions without immediately getting strung out, and these are definitions which are easily Google able.
Grow the fuck up
Soviet treatment of Tatars or Kyrgyz people wasn’t stellar, either. At best, forcing them to “settle” and renounce their “savage” ways of living. The ussr inherited a lot of national and racial hierarchies that went largely unquestioned the same way that racial hierarchies went unquestioned in the west until later in the 20th century. Just because they didn’t have chattel slavery or plantations it doesn’t mean there wasn’t a racial dynamic to tsarist Russia, and later, the USSR.
A key part of critical support and credible analysis of past projects means understanding the shortcomings regarding subaltern people in AES states, and how they could’ve been addressed, had they had the tools we have right now.
Was it Paul Robeson or Langston Hughes who said that he felt human and equal when he visited the Soviet Union?
It was Robeson testifying before the HUAC where he said that. The southern Demokkkrats lost their shit
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Sounds like
to me
Stuff I’ve heard libs work themselves up over:
- “all of Stalin’s progroms”
- Yeah, west Germany was run by “former” Nazis, but the Stasi also secretly employed ex-SS people! (And no, they did not provide any further details)
- East Germany was a watered down version of Nazi Germany
- Stalin tried to kill all of the Ukrainians (for no apparent reason)
but the Stasi also secretly employed ex-SS people! (And no, they did not provide any further details)
Pretty sure they only employed them to dig their own graves
Edit: sorry employed implies they were paid lol
Edit: sorry employed implies they were paid lol
a bullet is hard earned currency
there were a bunch of mayors and other low level shit that kinda didn’t matter wasn’t there? in both germanys. surely the greater sin is to put the nazis in charge of nato and your space program.
There’s definitely a practical aspect of, like, everyone in the civil service joined the Nazi party, so if you throw them all into a pit then Germany won’t be able to function as a society.
The Soviets had the low- and mid- tier engineers do work on the early Soviet air and space program, along with taking a lot of factory equipment with them east, but this was always framed as part of war reparations which once paid came to an end.
Don’t ask formerly USSR regions how they feel about gays though
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-people-who-think-homosexuality-is-never-justified
I see you come from an anarchist instance, so maybe try to investigate why it is you feel like you have to try to defend the US like this.
I’ve never met an anarchist who does that.
formerly soviet
you mean currently capitalist?
“Don’t ask KHAMAS how they feel about gays though”
