RedSailsFan [none/use name]

always a fair choice to stay out of threads like this lol, got accused of being a petty campist for shitting on fucking nyc dsa of all things just now lmao

agreed!

they were fucking endorsing her even after national dsa unendorsed her https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2024/07/real-story-behind-dsas-decision-unendorse-aoc/398024/

As City & State previously reported, NYC-DSA voted overwhelmingly to endorse Ocasio-Cortez earlier this year, with more than 80% of DSA members in the chapter’s Queens and Bronx/Upper Manhattan branches voting in favor of endorsing her for reelection

“In February 2024 NYC-DSA, a chapter of the National DSA, voted to re-endorse Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as we have every election year since 2018. Today, AOC is still endorsed by NYC-DSA. NYC-DSA withdrew its request for a National DSA endorsement after the primary passed and the National Political Committee honored this request,” the NYC-DSA chapter said in a statement.

“It is not uncommon for chapters and National DSA to diverge on endorsements,” the statement continued. “Her endorsement passed with significant support in the chapter, and the chapter remains supportive of her candidacy.”

i couldnt find a single article of NYC-DSA backing national’s decision, it’s not fucking “petty campism” to think that one of the chapters renowned for being probably the most lib in the entire DSA (at least it was from my time in DSA) is probably still lib???

i’ll put my trust in nycdsa when they actually show they can exert real pressure* on the officials they helped elect or start helping elect officials as “DSA” on the ballot and not “D” and not a moment before.

btw no i dont currently think zohran is the same as aoc or bownman or sanders (although he certainly has done stuff already that makes me worried), but i will view it as essentially luck for them to stumble on such a good principled candidate (unless again they show some sign of being able to reign him in.)

Do I have to have this as a signature?

no, but it could be a funny bit, there was that user who used to sign off every comment with “death to amerikkka” lol

I’ll agree that I’m coming in at inopportune times to say this but I’m honestly really bothered by inherently murderous villains like MTG proposing an ostensibly good thing that I’m sure she counted on being destined to fail. I find people like her and Tucker to be such sinister cancers that I see absolute red when i see their trickery played out in real time.

i sympathize, seeing right wingers coopt socialist language is easily one of the most infuriating things i encounter online, especially since it’s still so tabboo to be a communist in amerikkka and the rest of the west.

I absolutely agree, fuck the likes of AOC for allowing this to happen but burrying the likes of MTG under a pile of concrete is so important to me that I don’t think we’re on the same wavelength

please know your audience, do this on reddit not HB, there are and always have been way more annoying chauvinist succdem sympathizing HB users who needlessly defend people like AOC or sanders than dumbass patsocs who get banned on sight by the admins anyways

The bill doesn’t need to be antisemitic for her to be a nazi.

never said it did, i never once denied her being a nazi. here i will make it very clear: MTG is a nazi who needs to die as soon as possible, preferabably by a bullet through the head.

I think it’s pretty important she’s a nazi, think it should be discussed.

it should be discussed if someone is praising MTG or asking who she is, not bringing it up in a manner in a thread attacking AOC for voting no which to me seemed like it was intending to defend AOC against the attack rather than attack MTG.

I shit on AOC all the time. Quite frankly, I feel gross even having to prove myself to you.

ok, you shit on AOC usually, whatever, my point was that I never saw you actually doing this in the threads around this particular subject even though you could have easily done so by pointing out she is letting a nazi coopt leftist rhetoric. as for your feelings, i dont know your heart all i can go based off of is what you were doing in these past few threads becuase i dont actually keep track of which accounts say what over months long period like a would. like, tbc i just went back thru your comments in the threads about this subject and there wasnt one comment that said anything remotely close to “fuck AOC” besides maybe the anti electoralism comment ig? you even admitted that no one was handing it to MTG here https://hexbear.net/comment/6342803 and you’re still bringing it up? surely you can understand my confusion then???

again, im not a mind reader and im not keeping a track of your comments with a “pro AOC” vs “anti AOC” counter, what i am questioning here is why you keep making comments that appear (“what exactly is the pressing need for you to keep bringing this is up in such a way that it makes seem like you are trying to defend AOC”) to be defending AOC despite your hatred of her???

it’s a failing of NY DSA? that’s something i can easily get behind lol

what exactly is the relevance of MTG being a nazi? who is handing it to MTG here or anywhere else on the “left” part of the internet? there’s nothing antisemetic in the bill afaik, and the speech i saw didnt seem antisemetic too, what exactly is the pressing need for you to keep bringing this is up in such a way that it makes seem like you are trying to defend AOC??? just vote for the amendment and put some tweet out that “despite your extreme difference in opinion from MTG, it’s more important to stop isr*el’s genocide by any means necessary”

Like, quite frankly if you hadnt kept bringing it up i doubt it would have even known it was MTG who put the amendment forward, if you are really this concerned about a nazi getting some sort of credit for this action why havent i seen you adding on to shitting on AOC by pointing out that she’s failing by letting MTG get ahead with an amendment like this.

think this is the first time ive seen you talk positively about AI and not have someone come in to start an argument with you lol

even hasan was attacking AOCIA over this, why do i keep seeing you lay down your life for that shitty succdem over and over in these threads???

I think that’s interesting because a lot of people take the opposite position – that people who consume this sort of thing and say it should be banned are hypocrites who can be dismissed

yes i think if you are trying to convince someone that these games should be banned i think revealing the fact that you have fondly engaged with them in the past is a huge error lol exactly for that reason. its sort of similar to people outwardly breaking BDS imo. no one really needs to know your fucked up kinks, and no one needs to know that you think BDS is stupid. the much more important thing is that you dont lead other people down this path than anything else, idk if that makes any sense. im not a huge fan of the debatebro “fallacy” shit but the hypocrite fallacy is really useful to consider here too, tons of people give good advice/advocate for something while being “hypocrites”

i think the biggest issue is how much can you actually trust someone who makes such a relatively meaningless statement on this issue on an online forum where all our comment mean next to nothing anyways? i seriously doubt people like i described would admit to this kind of thing in any sort of context outside of a relatively anonymous forum like this, but it’s also really easy to pretend as if you “support” the banning of these games but actively put money in their patreon or whatever.

My whole point is that I don’t appreciate the creeps who like this sadistic, exploitative sort of stuff

i dont disagree. to better clarify my own position, it’s moreso that i dont want to try and claim to know random strangers’ hearts based off their kinks, which i mostly find weird anyways. i dont think its that far fetched for someone to find something like this titillating for a more innocuous reason (eg. just the taboo of it) but also recognize the horror of it. again, however, i think their position on whether or not it should be banned in public works to be illuminating if that makes any sense (i.e. i find it a lot more sus for someone to be very upset about these games being banned as compared to someone admitting they have played and enjoyed this kind of game but support a ban if that makes any kind of sense.)

There’s a huge difference between erotica (etc.) that either recognizes the other as human or just objectifies them in a way that is unconcerned with their view, versus actively reveling in their suffering and subjugation. That’s it.

i agree here 100% btw, i maybe am just more lenient about the morals/intentions of someone who likes this kind of content.

Maybe most importantly, though I would still put a little fault on the consumer here if you asked me, fault doesn’t actually matter, what matters is what creates a better world, and here that involves heavily prioritizing cracking down on distribution, rather than attacking the creeps buying it.

most importantly seems to contradict (eg. “fundamental issue”) the rest of the comment :3

i believe what you mean is that it’s something that shouldnt be left unaddressed and that you dont want to totally let creeps off the hook. ig i should say im ace and i find pretty much all porn hard to understand, even the most “normal” porn so the gap between someone who likes something really fucked up and “vanilla” porn isnt as big as i imagine it is to the average allo? like, i feel like it’s very possible to just like the taboo of a game like this without being a creep, find hot whatever you find hot, i think all sex stuff is weird but if you do like some taboo like these games (without desiring to be a r—pist ofc) you should not complain about them being banned and what not

fair enough wasnt trying to accuse you of it sorry lol.

also, i should say i dont really judge anyone who plays even one of these porn games, even the really questionable/bad ones, i just think there’s too much potential for abuse and it feeds into the omnipresent misogyny in society so they need to be banned. i actually put more responsibility onto the ones who make these games than the consumers tbh.

i dont play porn games so im not really sure what LonaRPG is, but i would support banning any game that presents it like you described also

i think a game from the perspective of the r—ist is much more concerning and what needs to be banned, im unsure which 389aaa is referring to

my 2 cents: hate that this is happening because some weirdo conservative group pressured payment processors and those payment processors pressured steam, because i dont like conservatives or especially companies controlling speech/expression. however i am anti-free speech tbh so these kinds of games should absolutely be banned, i just want a socialist government doing it lol

https://www.chess.com/blog/erik/how-i-got-the-chess-com-domain-name

TL;DR - I got the Chess.com domain name out of bankruptcy for $55,000 in 2005

an eye watering sum presumably lol

you should point this out in the headline or in the post body then, my original impression was that you were saying they are calling others “bots” or something like that

the NYPD is literally funded like an army they would outright just kill him if he tried this

what exactly is the issue here? the article is complaining about DDOS attacks from botnets and LLM scrapers, seems very reasonable to me