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    The thing that is maybe most disheartening to me is that THIS is more damaging than him not regretting signing on for multiple tours of murdering foreigners and then joining Blackwater.

    Like the tat is very gross, but the actual signing up to murder people in the third world is so much more vile and harmful.

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      Pretty much how I feel. I’m all for rehabilitation but like that doesn’t mean giving them leadership roles. And like I mentioned in another thread, any shop would help at least make the hate symbol illegible for the cost of a “tip” that pays for the ink if not free. They might not turn it into something fancy for free. But they will make it so you are no longer marked via an X or blackout or whatever. Bro could have done this shit any afternoon. Like fuck me if I had a Nazi symbol even if it was still a Nazi the first thing I’d do when running for politics is cover it up.

      Which leads us to the one saving grace: maybe this is evidence this guy is just that much of a bog-standard Yankee-Doodle dumbass and isn’t actually a Nazi running secretly.

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      The order the oppo research was released in is quite telling about American politics

      Day 1: Platner said he’s a communist and rural white people are stupid and racist

      Day 2: Platner being racist and blaming victims of SA

      Day 3: Platner has had a literal nazi tattoo for twenty years

      And they haven’t even publicized his past comments defending human trophy collecting or his dismissals of PTSD.

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          people have been digging on his reddit. he was also at abu ghraib in 2005

          Assume all possible content warnings:

          also knew about azov battalion in 2019 and admired them but supposedly didn’t know what a totenkopf was before getting one tattooed on his body

          EDIT: It won’t let me post that one for some reason. Must be getting rate limited after posting too many images

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          CW: Dismissing sexual violence/ victim blaming


          This is just one instance but there seems to be many of him defending human trophy collecting in war over his years of posting.

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    I’m sorry what? A dog… knot? fry

    This man has the worst judgement in the world and should not be near any position of power anywhere.

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    Holy shit he also has a 1919 tattoo? This has to be fed shit. There’s no way some dude with at least two Nazi tattoos and a history like his isn’t some sort of plant

    Edit: apparently this one is okay, see comments below from OP

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        It’s not Trail Forest Crew. It’s Trail Fixing Collective, he’s just forgotten the proper name of its origin.

        https://www.trailfixingcollective.com/

        Est 1919 according to this image, which is buried somewhere in their website

        This one is fine. Unless it’s also part of an op. I’m still a little suspicious of the claim it was established in 1919. A google search restricting results to “before 2020” turns up absolutely nothing for “trail fixing collective” so I’m dubious that ever existed before 2021 and that in turn makes the 1919 really suspicious tbh.

        All of this shit smells like op to me. Feels really similar to the fuckery that Bored Ape Yacht Club was pulling and practically every argument online is really similar to the same arguments about how that nft group couldn’t possibly be nazis.

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          I’m still a little suspicious of the claim it was established in 1919. A google search restricting results to “before 2020” turns up absolutely nothing for “trail fixing collective”

          I’m not even sure that you have the right group. The WGME tweet says that TFC group is a subgroup of AMC Appalachian Mountain Club. It may not even have a website.

          The 2 articles I linked were from 2016.

          The URL for AMC is https://outdoors.org/ . It has captures on The Internet Archive going back to 1997.

          For one though, you should not trust google search results as being a limit of known information. Google search is very bad and getting worse. Websites from before 2020 just don’t exist anymore. Old webpages get deleted or paywalled and then removed from google search results.

          Also, much of recorded history from before the internet, simply isn’t on the internet.

          http://web.archive.org/web/20010402013024/http://www.outdoors.org/


          e/ on the about page of the website that you linked. it says that “trail fixing collective” was established in 2021 after being inspired by the old TFC group and asks old members to contact them.

          So you’re right in the sense that “trail fixing collective” didn’t exist before 2021. However, it was created based on a different group called “TFC” which was established in 1919.

          https://www.trailfixingcollective.com/our-story

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            I’m not even sure that you have the right group.

            Huh. Weird. It’s exactly the same crossed axes though? Like, verbatim it is the same. And for both to have 1919? Seems like far too much coincidence.

            I don’t know man these situations are sus and I lean towards not taking risks with potential nazis tbh. I don’t care whether I’m right or wrong it is worth rejecting people like this on the basis of suspicion alone. If you reject them you’ll never get nazis, if you take risks sometimes you’ll be wrong and they’ll be nazis.

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          idk a volunteer outdoor group isnt the kind of thing id expect to have a very good documentation online, and it’s a hell of a lot of work to disguise it when you could just say your great grandpa was born in 1919 or some such BS

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        “Trail Forest Crew”

        googling this returns two results, none of them are about a distinct organization
        combined with the totenkopf, i’m going to say it’s SS

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          It’s not Trail Forest Crew. It’s Trail Fixing Collective, he’s just forgotten the proper name of its origin.

          https://www.trailfixingcollective.com/

          Est 1919

          This one is fine. Unless it’s also part of an op. I’m a little suspicious of the claim it was established in 1919. A google search restricting results to “before 2020” turns up absolutely nothing for “trail fixing collective” so I’m dubious that ever existed before 2021 and that in turn makes the 1919 really suspicious tbh.

          All of this shit smells like op to me. Feels really similar to the fuckery that Bored Ape Yacht Club was pulling and practically every argument online is really similar to the same arguments about how that nft group couldn’t possibly be nazis.

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              The monkey nfts? Nazi op.

              Also notable that they were called “Yuga labs”. “Surf the Kali Yuga” is a popular phrase among crypto-nazis, and I mean crypto not in the currency sense.

              All of this shit when NFTs were relevant was a similar discussion. Crypto nazis generate the same feeling every time where it all feels slightly weird and tinfoil hat and people start questioning their own sanity but then later on everyone wonders why it was ever even a fucking debate given how obvious it was.

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        Definitely not a super common one, but unless there’s a really good explanation like it’s a RIP Grandpa 1919-1990 tattoo or some shit it’s probably a Nazi symbol

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      What other tattoos does this mother fucker have?

      “The tattoo on my right calf symbolizes unity. I think.

      “That’s a Black Sun. It’s a Nazi symbol.”

      “Oh. Oops! I’m gonna make the local tattoo guy rich! And you don’t wanna know what’s on my ass!”

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    TBH I wasn’t sure if you were exaggerating so I looked it up. No hyperbole, no exaggeration, that is a 100% a totenkopf on his chest. Just a totenkopf. Not some innocent thing that happens to be a lookalike. Not some riff on it co-opting it (not that that would be great either). Just a straight up totenkopf.

    When I said in another comment,

    Idk anything about the guy really, all I heard was “proud veteran” and he was already cancelled in my mind. The only way I’ll consider allying with an AmeriKKKan veteran is if they’re ashamed of it, apologetic, guilt-ridden, consider joining up a mistake, are committed to trying to atone for their mistake, and say “death 2 AmeriKKKa” every night before they go to bed. Anyone who’s proud of being an American soldier is a Nazi in my book.

    I was using the word “Nazi” in a lazy and sloppy way to equate AmeriKKKan fascists with Nazis, I didn’t mean actual sieg-heiling totenkopf-sporting Hitler-loving Nazi Nazi.

    Beyond parody.

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      The thing is, he seems so deeply unserious and aimless that he probably is not even a sieg-heiling Nazi. Maybe he is, but so far it genuinely seems like he is your average PMC, spoiled, American who’s fascism is undefined and mostly an outgrowth of this country being foundational to fascism. He is a grifter who does not believe in much of anything seriously. He is that particularly scary type of American soldier, the non-ideological fascist. If that makes any sense

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    He’s done all this reforming only just now that he’s running for office? Oh yeah, I totally believe he’s reformed his waysvery-normal

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    Graham Platner uploaded another video of his new tattoo. It’s weird that he didn’t get it changed sooner. He shared the video of himself with the totenkopf on Pod Save America, knowing that it was a Nazi tattoo. He told Pod Save America that his opposition was going to use it against him, so he wanted to reveal it before his opposition. Then he only decided to get the tattoo changed after the podcast was released.

    https://xcancel.com/grahamformaine/status/1981087613466660950

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      I was appalled to learn it closely resembled a Nazi symbol

      Not only is he a Nazi, but he’s a Nazi who is too scared to admit he’s a Nazi. Somehow I trust him even less. I wish the Iraqi insurgency had FPV drones when he was over there.

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      That last sentence feels so slimy! It feels exactly like a chud making fun of a lib. “Oh, I guess you need a safe space because you’ve been triggered” type shit. Except I think he means it to read sincere. I don’t think it is sincere, I think he’s a chud pretending to be a lib, and not entirely managing to keep the chud sneering at bay