I won’t be watching it, these sorts of plotlines always cordon off actual SV victims from the media. It doesn’t matter how “tasteful” it is, it’s slop that ultimately trivializes SV for the profit motive
“I won’t be watching it because of a thing they show one time in the second season which i have a very strong opinion of despite having no knowledge of howit is portrayed in the context ofthe show, which, i won’t be watching”
The fuck is wrong with you? What are you arguing for? Do you want me to watch it? It doesn’t fucking matter how it’s portrayed. The setting, genre, and the company who made it itself trivializes the portrayal of SV. I say the same shit about Tasha Yar in Star Trek.
It’s interesting that liberals and fascists have also not liked this part specifically. Somehow depicting the empire as more than a force that makes trains run on time has had an impact on cultural discourses and ruffled feathers across political and ideological lines. And since the assailant is killed and the crime is violently refused by a lone woman, it is difficult to invent a victim narrative or a savior narrative to relieve the tension of depicting imperialism in this way.
Furthermore, I think the idea that Andor works to make the empire seem gritty misses how mundane the empire is shown. The show isn’t trying to get gritty. It’s saying that SV is a mundane and obvious part of empire building. Leaving it out carries its own risks, just as depicting it carries other risks.
It’s also not necessary to depict resource extraction and genocide because that would be a difficult topic also. They should just focus on making more Ashoka I guess.
It’s saying that SV is a mundane and obvious part of empire building. Leaving it out carries its own risks, just as depicting it carries other risks.
Well you see akshually in my toy empire it shows real empire chews people up like you, I love toy empire media. I will defend this use of “art” in my toy empire at the expense of limiting access to media for actual victims. I’m so glad toy empire show is so popular I can’t stop talking about it I hope they make more and get more profit
Is this aimed at your fellow hexbears? Some of us are SA victims and it would be really shitty to label us as childish SA enthusiasts just because you’ve spent the past 3 years quietly seething over disney slop being popular on a communist website.
Maybe I should treat survivers as damaged people who can’t cope with the realities of empire. Perhaps that will show how ethical and measured of a person I am for making trauma the essential variable that determines your value. Afterall it’s all make believe. It’s just a commodity. You don’t exist and neither do I. Why should I care how imperialism is depicted?
What does that even mean? Its a tv show, none of it is “necessary”. It was an important event in Bix’s arc throughout the season, and a connection to the reality of precarious workers.
gets a short scene where she kills a dude then is perfectly fine and then returns with her special hope babe as a vessel for cassian’s patriarchal lineage to the occupied ICE metaphor farm planet where she only has suffered traumatic experiences instead of her mechanic worshop on ferrix.
Frankly tired of people praising yet another garbage show that uses SV to make itself seem “serious” and “gritty”.
I really don’t think that’s the take you’d come away with after actually watching the show.
It’s not doing the Game of Thrones thing at all.
I won’t be watching it, these sorts of plotlines always cordon off actual SV victims from the media. It doesn’t matter how “tasteful” it is, it’s slop that ultimately trivializes SV for the profit motive
Obviously I cannot speak for other SV victims, but for what it’s worth I did not personally find the attempted SV scene to be triggering at all.
“I won’t be watching it because of a thing they show one time in the second season which i have a very strong opinion of despite having no knowledge of howit is portrayed in the context ofthe show, which, i won’t be watching”
The fuck is wrong with you? What are you arguing for? Do you want me to watch it? It doesn’t fucking matter how it’s portrayed. The setting, genre, and the company who made it itself trivializes the portrayal of SV. I say the same shit about Tasha Yar in Star Trek.
To back you up, the SV scene did lead nowhere, since the character gets magically “fixed” by killing (one) of her torturers.
It’s a common and awful trope, like oh yeah PTSD is just this thing that dissipiates with vibes.
It’s interesting that liberals and fascists have also not liked this part specifically. Somehow depicting the empire as more than a force that makes trains run on time has had an impact on cultural discourses and ruffled feathers across political and ideological lines. And since the assailant is killed and the crime is violently refused by a lone woman, it is difficult to invent a victim narrative or a savior narrative to relieve the tension of depicting imperialism in this way.
Furthermore, I think the idea that Andor works to make the empire seem gritty misses how mundane the empire is shown. The show isn’t trying to get gritty. It’s saying that SV is a mundane and obvious part of empire building. Leaving it out carries its own risks, just as depicting it carries other risks.
… but its also not necessary to depict it.
Is the torture scene on Ferrix not enough deeply personal abuse?
It’s also not necessary to depict resource extraction and genocide because that would be a difficult topic also. They should just focus on making more Ashoka I guess.
So… SA apologia?
Well you see akshually in my toy empire it shows real empire chews people up like you, I love toy empire media. I will defend this use of “art” in my toy empire at the expense of limiting access to media for actual victims. I’m so glad toy empire show is so popular I can’t stop talking about it I hope they make more and get more profit
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Is this aimed at your fellow hexbears? Some of us are SA victims and it would be really shitty to label us as childish SA enthusiasts just because you’ve spent the past 3 years quietly seething over disney slop being popular on a communist website.
What are you arguing for? Go back to enjoying SV references in almost every franchise on TV?
They’re arguing the characterisation of it as a
And getting carried away I think
Maybe I should treat survivers as damaged people who can’t cope with the realities of empire. Perhaps that will show how ethical and measured of a person I am for making trauma the essential variable that determines your value. Afterall it’s all make believe. It’s just a commodity. You don’t exist and neither do I. Why should I care how imperialism is depicted?
I love it when Disney uses SV to make profit 🥳🥳🥳
The lowest hanging fruit is the easiest to reach.
I didn’t even realize what scene you were talking about until I googled it. I disagree that it’s used to make it more serious and gritty.
The way SA is tackled and portrayed in Andor is good.
But also wholly unnecessary.
What does that even mean? Its a tv show, none of it is “necessary”. It was an important event in Bix’s arc throughout the season, and a connection to the reality of precarious workers.
Its not explored at all. Bix
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gets a short scene where she kills a dude then is perfectly fine and then returns with her special hope babe as a vessel for cassian’s patriarchal lineage to the occupied ICE metaphor farm planet where she only has suffered traumatic experiences instead of her mechanic worshop on ferrix.
She was already violated once. Didn’t need to do it again.
that’s not what andor is so thanks for playing