Yeah he’s kinda a lib on this issue but I think he’s trying to take a pragmatic approach and not piss off the libs too much, not that that even works as you can plainly see from libs getting pissed off at him for understanding basic facts
I’m sure it’s his genuine belief that Russia is responsible, but even if it wasn’t, is he really gonna gain anything if he says the truth and recognizes that this is NATO’s war since 2014?
I think he’d gain too little and lose too much by swinging for the fences on this one. The foreign policy propaganda is too strong and it would jeopardize his ability to critique domestic policy.
Exactly. Although it’s interesting because the guys from Boy Boy made a video a year into the SMO explaining everything from an anti-NATO perspective and it seems like it didn’t really hamper their growth much. I guess their audience probably is open-minded enough that they’d rather accept the heterodox view than sever the parasocial relationship if they’re libs.
Was going to say “oh but Boy Boy is a small fringe channel, they can afford to split from US foreign policy” but apparently they’re at 1.17M subs now? Goddamn
The propaganda is pretty powerful here, at least regarding Ukraine. On a lot of things I find that people are willing to say “America’s on its bullshit again” regardless of their other political views, but they will “independently” come to anti-china views.
Russia already fucked up when NATO was blatantly arming Ukraine for 7 years and turning it into one of the most effective military in Europe and Russia still naively tried to hang on to the Minsk agreement. The Ukrainian army could not even beat the LPR/DPR militias back in 2015.
So many more people are now dead because of this naivete.
Hasan is being a bit of a lib too in his reply
Hasan is
being a bit ofa libtoo in his replyYeah he’s kinda a lib on this issue but I think he’s trying to take a pragmatic approach and not piss off the libs too much, not that that even works as you can plainly see from libs getting pissed off at him for understanding basic facts
Tactical liberalism moment
yea, kinda ignoring the whole decade of the US arming ukraine, but he is an amerikkkan after all
I’m sure it’s his genuine belief that Russia is responsible, but even if it wasn’t, is he really gonna gain anything if he says the truth and recognizes that this is NATO’s war since 2014?
I think he’d gain too little and lose too much by swinging for the fences on this one. The foreign policy propaganda is too strong and it would jeopardize his ability to critique domestic policy.
Exactly. Although it’s interesting because the guys from Boy Boy made a video a year into the SMO explaining everything from an anti-NATO perspective and it seems like it didn’t really hamper their growth much. I guess their audience probably is open-minded enough that they’d rather accept the heterodox view than sever the parasocial relationship if they’re libs.
Was going to say “oh but Boy Boy is a small fringe channel, they can afford to split from US foreign policy” but apparently they’re at 1.17M subs now? Goddamn
E: Also I guess being Australian doesn’t hurt lol
The propaganda is pretty powerful here, at least regarding Ukraine. On a lot of things I find that people are willing to say “America’s on its bullshit again” regardless of their other political views, but they will “independently” come to anti-china views.
Edit: America to Ukraine
Well, this war was a pretty fucked up move from Russia, even if provoked by USA and NATO.
Russia already fucked up when NATO was blatantly arming Ukraine for 7 years and turning it into one of the most effective military in Europe and Russia still naively tried to hang on to the Minsk agreement. The Ukrainian army could not even beat the LPR/DPR militias back in 2015.
So many more people are now dead because of this naivete.