• janNatan@lemmy.ml
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    So many get this backwards.

    The languages (there are multiple, including historical languages that explain the transition into the modern languages) came first - by about 40 years.

    He did not invent languages for his world. He invented a world to explain how his languages would come to exist.

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    It keeps blowing my mind when I learn that other languages haven’t obfuscated the meanings of names behind two thousand years of linguistic divergence.

    Your name almost certainly means something basic too, you just don’t remember what it is.

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      Yep. Some common names:

      Steve ← Steven ← Stephanus ← στέφανος = crown (or wealth)

      Linda ← -linde = tender, soft

      James ← Iacomus ← Iacobus ← Ἰάκωβος ← Ἰακώβ ← יַעֲקֹב = heel, footprint / follow, watch, observe

      Karen ← Catherine ← Αἰκατερίνη ← Ἑκάτη = one who works from far away (referring to a goddess)

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      even in english, it’s a somewhat mixed bag. names like Grace, Hope, Faith are still accessible to modern people.

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    Sure… but Tolkien could tell you Treebeard’s name in hall a dozen languages he’d made up for his setting (or for fun, before the setting was a thing), including full etymologies.

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    …in service of his fantasy epic.

    This is wrong. The the histories, cultures, etc. were in service of the conlangs. Sure, he eventually wrote some stories set in that world, but that wasn’t the reason he created it.

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    Maybe that’s why Tolkien wrote a ton of books while most of us get stuck in the character creation screen of Baldur’s Gate 3 choosing a name for 7 hours.