she fucking sucks, never thought I’d hear libs rolling out 'actually transness is bourgeois"
Counter argument: Sex is bourgeois!
You know what, valid
Heroic Failure would be even funnier without : between
China has state backed clinics for trans youth https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/china-opens-first-clinic-transgender-youth-rcna5313
And not trying to completely conflate sexual orientation and gender issues but with the track the GDR was on i.e. having state run gay bars, I think it can be reasonably assumed they would have been on the forefront(as far as states go) on trans issues and may have built their own clinic had the bad guys not won the cold war
The DDR did have government-funded surgery for trans people, no need to assume they would have.
This is from the FTM Newsletter (which was one of the biggest sources of trans info at the time) Issue #12, June 1990.
Fucking fuck, fuck, fuck, FUUUUUUCK. How could we fuck this up so badly…
Another fun fact: while Stalin-era USSR policies returned to “family values” and criminalizing queer identities, it is entirely inaccurate to say that the decriminalization of queerness was a “side-effect” of abolishing tsarist anti-sodomy laws. Post-October Revolution, the USSR was incredibly purposeful in not reinstating anti-sodomy laws (which were in effect in most of the world at the time). Grigorii Batkiss, the Director for the Institute of Social Hygiene in Moscow, outlined the Bolshevik stance on sexual identity in 1923: “It declares the absolute non-interference of the state and society into sexual matters, so long as nobody is injured, and no one’s interests are encroached upon.” In 1925, Dr. Batkiss participated in the World League for Sexual Reform, and wrote The Sexual Revolution in Russia. The World League promoted sexual rights for men and women, abortion access, freedom from patriarchal sexual roles, and tolerance of alternative sexual lifestyles.
While concrete evidence of this part is hard to track down, Sean Egan mentions in The Bolsheviks and the Sexual Revolution that part of the Soviet reframing of marriages included secular marriages, with reports of same-sex secular marriages being established.
This was no by-product, but a concerted Soviet effort to rethink sexual identity and freedom. As for trans people: post-Revolution women were known to change their names, wear men’s clothes, partner with other women, take on “men’s” jobs in the military and heavy industry. And there were doctors who could apply for permission to perform rudimentary gender affirmation surgeries, as well, which were cutting edge at the time, and a result of close partnership with Herschfield’s Institute.
Source on that? I don’t disbelieve you, Weimar Germany was on the cutting edge of trans liberation and gender-confirming surgeries
Magnus Hirschfeld having performed some of the first gender confirming surgeries, and was one of the first to have their work burned by the Nazis
And some within the DDR revived this tendency, despite internal and more significant external pressure
Oh sorry didn’t see this comment, I put a source for it in a reply to myself because I wanted to follow up. It was talked about in a lot of trans publications at the time, and in a lot of trans conferences (which have very sparse documentation on the modern internet)
Hadn’t seen that when I’d replied, thank you
Regardless we(and hopefully anyone thinking objectively) can see that the DDR while nowhere near perfect was far better on LGBT+ issues than their captalist western counterparts
Not (just) because of the attitudes of potentiates but because one system over the other enabled the progression in equality and equity of all groups and peoples
Plus Cuba has inclusive gender/sexual orientation laws, and spent big state money a while back to send doctors abroad to learn how to do SRS so there literally are designer vaginas under communism.
Women Have Better Sex & Vaginas Under Socialism
Were can I learn about these “state run gay bars”?
In late 1980s East Berlin, the LGBTQ+ community experienced a period of paradoxical “liberalization” and continued state surveillance, with the government making some concessions while the Stasi monitored and infiltrated activist groups. The state allowed organizations like the Sonntags-Club to form, equalized the age of consent for same-sex and heterosexual acts, and produced the film Coming Out, yet the secret police continued their surveillance to prevent the emergence of an autonomous political movement.
(from google thus the ‘paradoxical’ framing)
I maybe getting a couple of things conflated but I think the Sonntag club in east berlin, despite the org running it being persecuted during the 70’s, latter in the 80’s the persecution ended and their club was given state backing needed to exist
And obviously while not being perfect; compared to capitalist Nazi staffed and influenced West Germany, where certain homosexual acts were put-you-in prison illegal until as late as '94 even post-reunification, shows the stark difference between the two entities
https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/gay-liberation-behind-iron-curtain/ Here’s an article about it
Further reading about this topic can be found in States of Liberation: Gay Men Between Dictatorship and Democracy in Cold War Germany, which is by the same author. It can be found on Anna’s Archive here: https://annas-archive.org/md5/1ca0f695f42518c99d1c53051b2468fc
The GDR was there albeit still early days, but they had already had state funded gender surgeries, it’s where Cuba sent their doctors in the 80s to learn how to perform them and where they got their medical texts on the topic.
I’m working backwards because I’m remembering from Leslie Feinbergs excellent (and free) book on LGBT stuff in Cuba, where she mentions it. But the book is more focused on Cuba than the GDR.
Totally cool, if you can happen to find any sources on the DDR support of trans surgeries please post them thanks
I might be misrembering my sources, because I did a quick search through the book I mentioned, where the first SRS was done in Cuba in 1988, but it doesn’t say where the doctors trained. It does say they got all their books on sexual health from the GDR. I might have read it in another source.
Before that some trans people petitioned the health ministry individually. At least in one case a woman got a surgery and in another case a surgery got approved but the surgeon refused because the patient hadn’t threatened to commit suicide.
There is no designer vagina under communism
Ah but is it a designer vagina? Or does the state issue everyone the same vagina?
In gommunism, all women share one big communal vagina
mom said it’s my turn with the people’s vagina
Women under communism
Men under communism
O.O booba
Not even the same style of vagina, but the same singular vagina
Pfft… waiting on the hype beast vaginas tbh
i remember seeings some post op ones from cuba, looked pretty good tbh, i feel it helps they put so much focus on health there
GDR had surgeries and hormones paid for by the state too
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did that work?
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What will your job be after the revolution? Id be a vagina designer
A vaginer
*Electrical Vagineer
Vagineer, im designing them
“Hey, y’all got any a them vaginers?”
I once saw some video of a porn actress getting her vagina molded to make custom sex toys based off her coochie. It was blurred but there was just some normal ass looking dude shoving blue silicone up there.
So I imagine that’s what the job is basically.
Yeah. If you want cookie cutter assembly line vaginas. Mine will be handcrafted and artisinal
How do you artisanally shove blue silicon into someone’s coochie?
With great care and respect to the craft. Duh.
With a pizza peel
break down the word
“art is anally”
Why do they write like a villain monologuing?
Marvel probably
so that just happened
No “designer vaginas”, just free medical care to all who need it.
(Spoiler, the designer vaginas are also part of the necessary free medical care)
Are trans bourgeoisfully automated designer vagina space communism when
Orville season 3
Is the space communism fully automated, or is it the designer vagina that’s fully automated?
Nice argument. Unfortunately I have already depicted you as the smug bourgoisie and me as the brave champion of the working class
There is no designer vagina under communism
Who is this loser white woman?
Whoa whoa whoa that’s incredibly offensive to us innocent losers.
Liberals don’t really do theory, they do market research, to sell their customers the idea of being temporarily disadvantaged.
no designer vagina under communism
if it wasn’t for the other part i could see this being a deal like captain picard being bald because nobody cares about genitals.
Meanwhile,
god forbid I have a diagnosable mental condition that needs treatment.
Denying reality is not very left wing of you. ts pisses me off so bad. There’s literally studies if you gave a fuck.
People not caring about evidence is going to be the death of me
Westoids when they hate and oppress a minority and they side with the west’s enemy because they both have a common enemy in them.
