FYI: Hasan made a video on it, the collar is a vibrating collar with an apple find-my in it
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It’s actually impressive how the zionist smear campaigns manage to gain legs
I mean it’s happening even in this thread
Exactly my point. You can have a squeaky clean record and they’ll still pull something to make you look bad and they do this with every prominent leftist.
“Uh guys this person is a racist, sexist, bigot” and it turns out they got those labels from not wanting to vote for Kamala and arguing with liberal poc.
The thing is hexbear is pretty diverse. A lot of people here don’t watch Hasan or know a lot about him, his history, his dog’s history, or his relationship with other streamers, etc. All we have to go off of is the clipped visual evidence, which is just a clip of him reaching off-screen and the dog yelping and the low quality picture of the collar; and the innate dislike for streamers, gamers, Dem Socs, and Americans lol. Lots of people use training collars, too, and there’s a variety of designs for both training/e-collars and air tag collars, which makes it difficult to tell, too.
I’ve been trying to learn more context myself through things like this thread to help me decide if I should continue watching his clips when he pops up on my YouTube or not. My partner absolutely loves dogs and has even heard the story now, so if I can’t disprove he did it then she’ll look at me with skepticism and judgment every time he pops up.
Tbh, it’s one thing I like about this place. The skepticism sucks sometimes and can lead to undue pessimism, but there’s less also parasocial attachment to politicians and famous people, so you also don’t have reflexive defensiveness over them when they do something bad, unlike what I see in liberal or conservative spaces.
Look, I’m gonna be real with you, if you genuinely hold any doubt about whether Hasan treats Kaya well, then pedos and zionists like Destiny and Ethan succeeded in this slander operation
Because that’s what this is, it’s a targeted slander campaign by Ethan Klein and Destiny, the bogus claim that he shocked his dog originated yesterday in the Ethan Klein subreddit, then pushed on r/LSF the Destiny cult subreddit and further picked up by racist trolls like xqc
This man is the face of the modern American left and if you’re duped this easily about something so obviously disprovable, then they’re gonna trick you again in the future
This man is the face of the modern American left
Oof
Can you stack up YOUR advocacy for Palestine against his? hmmmm
If my partner brought it up, then even the normies know about it, so unfortunately I think they have made a temporary victory with this one. But I think his good character will come out in the end. Cancel culture doesn’t seem to really stick nowadays for people who do deserve it so I doubt it will for someone who doesn’t.
It’s unrealistic to think I won’t be tricked again in the future but as long as I change my mind as new evidence comes out, I think it’s fine. And I think most people do that, so think he’ll be fine, too. They’ve hit him with other stuff before that have slid off, like that he’s antisemitic or supports Islamic terrorists or whatever.
People are too defensive about dogs that they dont stop to think first
White people love dogs more than their own kids
The only parasocial relationship I maintain is with his dog. She’s so big. She keeps getting bigger. She was a little puppy and now she is big.
Let’s be clear this newest attack strategy is straight up coming from the Ethan Klein Subreddit which is an outpost of the Destiny harassment complex
Second if that’s a shock collar, then where’s the side by side photo of the specific brand, almost like it’s not a shock collar
Yeah the LSF sub is just joking about the Palestinian genocide mostly. It’s just Zionist rage baiting at this point.
Especially ironic considering Ethan Klein actually does abuse his dogs through neglect
I sort of think it could be a shock collar. There appears to be some sort of black box on it. The only things like that which I am aware of are shock collars, vibration collars (with no shock ability), invisible fence (sort of a shock collar, but not used in the same way), and GPS.
I could be wrong, but I think that white circle is an airtag, which would make GPS somewhat redundant. Confirmed, it’s an airtag + another device which Hasan claims is vibration only
I’m begging you to use critical thinking. Would a massive leftist streamer suffering constant attempts at character assassination electrocute his dog live on camera?
Even here on hexbear, in a very explicitly leftist space, I have witnessed some people who wouldn’t think twice about using a shock collar for training. They’re very common.
Why do even huge TV personalities, actors, CEOs making 7-8 figures a year manage to blow up their careers with easily avoided PR disasters constantly?
There’s a range of possibilities. Maybe it is a shock collar and he only meant to buzz her but shocked instead by pressing the wrong button on the remote, or pressed it with his elbow accidentally. Maybe he was just in a shitty mood. Maybe it’s actually GPS or a battery for the airtag which he shows on stream tomorrow. Maybe it’s some kind of dog fitness monitor.
I don’t buy every story I hear about Hasan, because 99.9% of the time they’re lies. I’m not claiming it’s a shock collar, or that he shocked her in that clip, just that it’s plausible.
Even here on hexbear, in a very explicitly leftist space, I have witnessed some people who wouldn’t think twice about using a shock collar for training. They’re very common.
I’ve never seen someone here would would support the use of a shock collar, and to my knowledge I have never met a leftist who regards such a thing well unless we’re counting ACP freaks and anyone else who just calls themselves “left”. A vibrating collar, which appears to be what she actually has? Sure, but not a shock collar.
Why do even huge TV personalities, actors, CEOs making 7-8 figures a year manage to blow up their careers with easily avoided PR disasters constantly?
Usually they aren’t doing something this ridiculously stupid, and you’re also using a large sample size to be able to point to a relatively small number of cases.
I don’t buy every story I hear about Hasan, because 99.9% of the time they’re lies. I’m not claiming it’s a shock collar, or that he shocked her in that clip, just that it’s plausible.
You’re mistaking something possible for it being plausible. Yes, it is literally possible that it’s a shock collar, we don’t have hard facts that make such a thing absolutely out of the question, but when you yourself recognize the endless stream of lies about Hasan, that in isolation the collar could be a ton of different things, and that the incident doesn’t seem to tell us that much because momentary coincidences can happen over the course of thousands of hours, the shock collar story is no longer plausible, it is merely possible but implausible because we have so much evidence outweighing it. The only reason this gained traction is because of conspiracist confirmation-seeking patterns of thinking that can transform virtually any evidence into something hostile because that’s all that the subject is willing to conceptualize with respect to the target of their obsessive hatred. You obviously are not that, but you aren’t thinking about this in a balanced way, you’re just giving undue credibility to a flimsy theory when better explanations exist.
Someone in this very thread was talking about their use of a shock collar. Check the modlog.
Using a shock collar is, even on the left, relatively minor of a “crime” and Hasan would probably have little trouble maintaining the same audience numbers if he was openly using a shock collar.
I’m not giving “credibility” to anyone beside the video itself. When you hear a liar speak you ignore them, not actively believe the opposite. We can stop talking about which liars said it first because I’m not relying on their word for anything.
Someone in this very thread was talking about their use of a shock collar. Check the modlog.
Alright, let me update what I said: One person.
Using a shock collar is, even on the left, relatively minor of a “crime” and Hasan would probably have little trouble maintaining the same audience numbers if he was openly using a shock collar.
Nonsense. While Hasan himself has said in the wake of this that a shock collar typically isn’t as bad as it sounds, that it just makes a tingling feeling (he has some experience with these in the past, though he says he never personally used one with a dog of his own), people would be at least a little upset at him for using one, somewhat more upset at doing so secretly, and incomparably more upset at him for lying about it, which is what we would need to conclude now with him explicitly and extensively denying these claims. He had several less-damaging offramps, so the assumption here is that he is using a shock collar, which is a mild brand risk, in secret, which mitigates that risk, but then flagrantly revealed the secret, creating a bigger risk, and is now denying it despite the shock collar (supposedly) being clearly visible on camera in addition to flagrantly using it, inviting a huge degree of risk to his personal credibility. It doesn’t make sense. It requires believing that he basically made a perfect catastrophe of wrong decisions over the course of days and possibly years to do the most damage to his reputation with the smallest extra-social infraction.
I’m not giving “credibility” to anyone beside the video itself. When you hear a liar speak you ignore them, not actively believe the opposite. We can stop talking about which liars said it first because I’m not relying on their word for anything.
But how substantive is that claim really when you’re in here having the discussion they want you to have and shrugging at refutations? How can you act like you’re ignoring them when you are treating their plainly implausible claim as comparably plausible to the alternatives? This is only a real possibility to you because they started saying it, and now we’re just playing a game of endless excuses because the claim ultimately cannot be falsified and there can always be some way of lining up counterfactuals to reach the conclusion that the liars want. Actually ignoring them, if ignoring was what you wanted to do, would be to retain the mindset you had before they said anything, which I really doubt you have. What I recommend, when one is forced to talk about this shit because I agree that ignoring is usually the better option but social circumstances like this sort of prevent it, is critically examining the claim to see how completely flimsy it is and, even if it’s not literally physically impossible, dismissing it as the less plausible explanation because a bunch of liars gassing it doesn’t make it more valid than when it was a non-idea before. It never had any substance and there are explanations that make more sense, that’s all there is to it.
I always assumed that people on this board had a similar level of experience with dealing with conspiracy theorists, but I’m beginning to think that that’s not true.
Also that one person got banned. I thought this Grinch person was the same user at first.
I am now convinced it’s a shock collar. The following picture is only to show the piece of tape and what I claim it’s covering.
I’ve played around with stills from this clip in my own image editor to my satisfaction. There is without any doubt a piece of electrical tape on the bottom of the black box, obscuring the two holes where the prongs were either unscrewed or cut off. You can easily see the impression of them for yourself if you crank up the brightness and contrast.
I am not making any claims about whether he used it in the clip he’s accused of using it in. The dewclaw getting caught explanation sounds reasonable to me. It’s definitely a shock collar though.
I also don’t think a streamer would look at porn on stream, but there have been streamers who have done that by accident, too. Sometimes people do things by accident without thinking.
I don’t think he did that, but it’s not a great argument against it.
It’s a perfectly fine argument against it. He’s a major streamer and spends so much time streaming (seriously like thousands of hours) that he should have a medical mandate to do it less, but he has not done anything like this in that entire time and condemns such actions. Doing what is barely more than “body language analysis” to say that what can easily be explained as a mundane coincidence is actually him flagrantly and deliberately doing something that would torpedo is his livelihood, with your only evidence being brainrotted freaks sometimes doing something substantially less bad, is not a great argument.
If the argument I made is bad, then we’re literally throwing any idea of understanding how motivations inform behavior out of the window, which I don’t think is good epistemology.
Bro, it’s not a shock collar, Hasan does not shock his dogs, if it was a shock collar the internet detectives would have the brand by now
Stop taking destiny harassment bullshit seriously
I’m sure they will find a brand of shock collar that looks at least similar to whatever kind of collar Kaya is actually wearing in the clip soon regardless. It’s just a black box with (allegedly) a blinking white LED and an airtag beside it. I’m sure there are literally 100s of electric collars that fit that description.
I’m not claiming it is one.
Ethan Klein is literally trying to do this right now on Instagram
Even if we had 100% confirmation that it was a shock collar, I doubt you could figure out precisely which one it is. It’s like 10 pixels in a 720p stream and there are 1000s of models of electric collar.
When he inevitably finds “the one” it won’t confirm it for me.
With respect this is a good opportunity to adjust your bullshit detectors.
I guess we’ll see, won’t we?
“Maybe taking Zionist destiny gangstalking claims at face value is actually smart.”
I’m not. I watched the clip and am undecided while waiting for further evidence. I actually don’t care what LSF, Ethan Klein, or Destiny has to say about it.
You are… doing exactly that. “Maybe the DDGer gangstalkers are right” is an accurate characterization of the initial comment I replied to.
Their narrative is the reason you are talking about it and the content of your post comes from their narrative.
I disregard their narrative and look at the picture and see with my own two eyes what appears to be a shock collar. The idea of Hasan using a shock collar isn’t that crazy. Like it or not they’re incredibly common.
it is not a shock collar, clean up your mess
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This is a waste of your time comrade <3
Oh without a doubt it is, but that’s never stopped me before.
exactly like
Why is there electrical tape on the bottom of it?
Pretty sure its an airtag
Is the white circle beside the black box with the blinking white LED not an/the airtag? So what’s the box then?
He says there’s a flashlight type thing and also a “tracker” which it seemed like was a speaker to help find her if she’s lost or something.
I had sent the above comment prior to seeing Hasan’s video where he shows the collar. I was correct that the white circle beside the black box was an apple airtag, which is a tracker. Hasan claims the black box is just a vibration collar.
Immediately keeps the dog confined on a tiny and hard “bed” or what you call this shit… against their will. But Speaks the hole stream against Israel’s apartheid and open air prison. WOW…
In case anyone is confused about what the priorities of the people spreading this horseshit are
Also, what’s their basis for saying it’s a hard bed? According to Hasan, the main reason he has Kaya sitting there is that she’d normally want to lie next to him, but lying on the floor is bad for her joints because it’s a hard surface and she’s a big dog.
They’re just making shit up, they know what they’re doing, they brigaded his Youtube vod video with zionist nonsense
It’s a suspension bed, like a cot. Hardmess depends on how tight it is - hard as a rock vs a trampoline. You can see in the video that she sinks into it. This type of bed was recommended by her vet.
I have the same bed for my dog. It’s also especially nice in the summer heat because it allows more airflow. I’ve sat in it and it’s more comfortable than my couch lmao.
Haha nice. Maybe I should get one for me…
They seem like a kind of fun channel. But then they post ACP did nothing wrong
How the hell does that hinkle guy manage to meet all these people
Yeah they’re in the same sphere of western chauvinist opportunists like midwestern marx that got pulled into the black hole of white supremacy that all liberal politics orbits.
Yeah they’re bad but also occasionally make great stuff. Their old youtube account is gone but it had some good stuff on it. I rescued this video they made: https://tankie.tube/w/8vSuWRRZSzhTJH5gGqdQEW
Kudos on you for being your own archive!
This is why - so when things get taken down / away we can upload them on things that do work.
im pretty sure pamphlets is just a mexican or other latino shitposting on twitter.
“Kaya, you are accused of treason to the party and for espousing ultra-left beliefs as punishment I shall give you a verbal warning and no pats for today.”
Also, what’s the situation, anyway about the animal abuse thing?
Known Zionist looking for literally any angle. I’ve watched a lot of Hasan, Kaya is very well trained and well cared for. There have been a few instances before where she got herself on the cot there.
It looks like she drags her dewclaw against the metal frame of her bed while trying to get up on it.
I think the dog’s paw is on the ground when the yelp starts tbh. It’s pretty plausible that he is using a training collar and he overreacts here to the dog simply moving around because he’s clearly in a shitty mood. Also like pretty plausible that the dog yelping in pain without checking on it makes me think he knows what caused the yelp already so he doesn’t need to check.
I don’t really think it’s that bad but then I own dogs and know that noise is definitely a spoiled dog overreacting with a yelp of surprise rather than anything that really hurt it at all.
People far more online then me have ID’d the collar she has on, its a Air Tag collar you can buy off amazon. Dan Saltsman and Destiny’s orbiters as well as Ethan Klein are circulating a photoshopped image of a shock collar on Kaya in r/lsf and on twitter/threads.
I learn all this against my will.
It’s not Photoshopped, the images originate from this timestamped clip where an LED blinks. I took my own screenshots below:
Blinking LED visible:
Now I have no idea what it is, but it’s not an ordinary collar. Could be an airtag, could be something else.
It’s like 15 pixels in two frames and they’re on different sides of what is likely an airtag collar. Nothing suggests LEDs as opposed to just reflections on metal or plastic
The source of the LEDs claim is a Zionist Destiny anti-Hasan subreddit. You are reposting them and spreading their narrative.
I’m not reposting anything. I literally took these screenshots myself, I’m not some idiot that took these from Reddit or Twitter. It’s obvious this not a normal collar. It’s obvious it’s not a reflection. couldn’t care for a “steamer narrative”. I’ll believe my own eyes thanks.
Hasan himself is saying the collar "has the capacity to vibrate ".
And thats the same as a shock collar to you?
Cool you took the same screenshots that DDGers did because it is in total like 6 frames in a short video. They are the ones claiming to see LEDs. You are certain they are LEDs, but have exactly zero reason to think so except for preexisting DDGer narratives.
I personally don’t have a strong opinion on the dog collar because, just like you, I know nothing about it except it has an airtag size circle on it.
This reads so much like concern trolling. Do you have any specific evidence that it’s a shock collar rather than any of the much more common things it could be? No? Then maybe don’t shrug in epistemic suspense like Klein’s and Destiny’s troll farms make credible claims.
It’s not concern trolling to point out the obvious.
I took the screenshots myself. There is no narrative.
Hasan himself is not saying it’s a vibration collar, because it’s obviously not a regular colar.
“No narrative” Oh, so you were just watching his stream, saw this happen, and came to this conclusion independently when you stumbled on all these other people saying it?
Listen, I’m not going to get into a back and forth about it, people can do that over here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1o0yrxe/it_is_an_airtag_collar_go_home_ur_mother_misses/
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Definitely not a training collar, just an insane Zionist with a weird fixation trying to come up with anything.
training collar
Going to be honest I look down on almost anyone who uses this kind of thing. I know boomers that have had dogs for their entire lives and they’ve never mentioned the use of training vibration/shock collars.
Now I don’t watch this guy, but the clip is not great and there’s no need to defend it. He’s ranting in his expensive streaming room about how an unstable internet connection is “violence”, raises his voice at his dog and then blames his mom for his poor behaviour while cussing out. Regardless of shock collar or not, is this the behaviour a 13 year old boy or an almost 40 year old man?
I’m not defending it if that’s what it is. I’ve never used them either. All I’m saying is that’s not a dog in pain it’s a surprise yelp.
an almost 40 year old man?
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The unstable internet thing is obviously a joke, of the type we make here constantly.
I didn’t hear him “raise his voice” or “cuss” at her, certainly spoke to her in a scolding tone.
“My mom spoils my dog so much” isn’t really a put down, is it?It’s plausible that it’s a shock collar, which I do not defend, that he either lost his temper and shocked her unnecessarily, or meant to buzz (vibration) but accidentally shocked. I’m sure he will show the collar on stream soon if it wasn’t.
He reaches for something out of frame and the dog immediately yelps, pretty weird coincidence if its not a shock collar.
As I said to someone else, I am begging you to use critical thinking. This is a huge leftist streamer who suffers constant character assassination attempts from multiple coteries of freakish trolls who clip things out of context constantly, and he spends ~7 hours a day every day streaming. Do you think that him shocking his dog live on camera, something he knows would result in a torrent of condemnation and endless free attacks from his detractors, is really the more plausible explanation than a coincidence of timing that happens over thousands of hours of footage?
He streams for hours every day. It is not a weird coincidence for two common things to happen around the same time.
Please y’all, remind yourselves that this is Destiny bullshit and that you are not immune to propaganda.
He just showed the collar on stream. It’s a vibrating collar with an airtag slot, built-in flashlight, tracker, and sound alert. No prongs on the underside of the little box.
Came here to say this. It’s the pinned comment on his stream explaining it, which I guess shows you how much this has blown up
Edit: this is the exact text:
It is a collar with an airtag and a vibration motor, that is used to help with recall when she’s free-roaming as she’s an off-leash trained dog. It flashes red when the vibration is used. That didn’t happen in the clip. It has no shock component.
Specifically, it’s this family of collars, by the shock-collar insisters own research. And before this comment was posted, not a single one of them in this post have called it out.
Curious how they never once post the actual product, despite analyzing the video to such an extent that they have a high quality image of it in his hand but never thought to look it up.
Curious how I found this product in 3 seconds using one Google search and the commenters own research.
Most curiously, this is not a shock collar. This is a vibration collar with the prongs removed. The vibration can be set from a very weak sensation to one that can be unpleasant. The weak setting can, and is, used in conjunction with positive reinforcement to train for recall.
The highest setting can be used by irresponsible owners, yes. I’d be suspicious of a bourgeois class traitor that has some usefulness but I’ve seen no other evidence of animal abuse. Once I do I’d be happy to say he’s an abuser.
But isn’t it just fucking weird how none of these accusers even here with their exhaustive research mention any of this?
Curiously, these posters are allowed to spam this post with the same comment copy/pasted, never replying to the actual rebuttals, but if I do the same thing to their comments, I’ll get banned.
Most curious how these tactics are exactly how Israelis operate.
I wonder if some of those 1-2 month old accounts spamming that it was a shock collar might deserve a little more scrutiny going forwards…
It was obvious it was not a normal dog collar, but I got called a bunch of names for pointing out the obvious, as usual. Think this is the 101st time this happened lmao.
Wonderful website we have here folks. Where you get called a federal agent, NATO propagandist, Ethan/Destiny orbiter, concern troll, and all sorts of things for having a healthy amount of skepticism. Great community everybody!
This is a cartoonish misrepresentation of your absurd arguments for the sake of getting pats on the back. Everything is a motte and bailey, everything is “free thinking” rather than unfalsifiable nonsense.
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You can also go add “Egotisical Prick” to your list of “titles.”
This has been happening a year now now, me speaking up once after an entire year of being fed jacketed and and insulted makes me an “egotistical prick”? Do you just expect people to take it endlessly?
This is another level of unironic gaslighting and exactly the problem I’m talking about. If we can’t have a community where we can discuss things openly and honestly without having abuse hurled at you, what do we have?
Do NOT criticise the parasocial muscle man
criticize him for real things, like palling around with the democratic party or not doing any organizing, not for fake shit invented by nazis
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Our faves are implicated. Release the Kaya files.
You can line up the power company’s daily demand chart and see a 7 gigawatt spike at the exact moment Kaya yelped on stream. I hear it knocked out power to several blocks 😔
That’s not a piece of electrical tape, please delete. And stop falling for weird conspiracy theories spread by Zionists.
Branding him a terrorist sympathizer didn’t work, so now they’re going after the animal lovers. Anyone who sees this and gets upset is a weak little titty baby.
Hey look ethan is doing nazi shit, again
In 1927, a Nazi representative to the Reichstag called for actions against cruelty to animals and kosher butchering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany
it’s true he told Kaya, my based queen, to go back to the Place afterwards
That Place?
Really, ai slop? Also its nit even called a dog gulag
I guess?I didn’t make it - Pamphlets posted it from an anon user. Sorry I didn’t hand draw it myself. Not good with the drawings. I was just being light hearted.
i liked it
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One moment there’s a comment there, next it says “Removed by Mod”, who knows what happened?
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Using ai to illustrate dumb jokes that aren’t worth the effort to draw and aren’t being used for profit is unquestionably one of the best use-cases.
tfw these dramatubers prove hasan right by trying to stir drama from something so insignificant.
He abuses his dog! The carnist says while eating a hamburger
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There’s no cognitive dissonance whatsoever because the food animal was never adopted into the family unit. Abuse of a pet is seen more like domestic violence while there’s no social or emotional connection to food animals.
He needs to show the actual collar on stream. And the longer he delays, the more “uh aktually he just bought a new collar from Walmart.” will gain traction.
100%. He should’ve just shown it immediately.
I just assume the controversy blew up after his stream was over because it would’ve been incredibly stupid of him to not do that while still streaming.
To defend against “you just bought a new collar from Walmart,” he pretty much needs to cough up the receipt now because receipts have timestamps.
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Oh ya, you’re probably right.
That doesn’t work because opportunists don’t care and the gullible and wrecker would miss it and still just keep asking over and over again.
ethan klienermensch marries a genocidal war criminal and dedicates his life to spreading hasbara to manufacture consent for the aforementioned genocide, abuses his dogs through neglect to the point that his family gets sick from actual giardia (lmao)
western streamer consoooooooooooomer media sphere: dead silence
hasan piker’s dog randomly yelps as it scrambles off furniture
western streamer consoooooooooooomer media sphere:
“HURRR MUH ANIMAL ABUSE, MUH SHOCK COLLAR, GUYZ HE IS AN ABUSER WHAT AN AWFUL HORRIBLE PERSON!!!1111!!!”This is satire right
right?
