• Carcharodonna [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Reposting what I posted in the other post:

    Ok so it doesn’t look like he is a groyper and I’m happy to admit I was wrong about this. Definitely doesn’t seem like he was a leftist either. My biggest takeaway from this is… How the fuck does someone go from never being even remotely vocal about politics in Discord servers to… Feeling strongly enough about something political to go and shoot someone over it? Seems weird. Really fucking weird.

    I wasn’t on the conspiracy train before, but this kinda has my gears turning a little.

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      Especially some weird ass ‘pundit’ like Kirk, which will garner attention and chud rage, but fundamentally achieve…nothing? And it’s not as if Kirko seemed a special threat to this oddball’s hobbies vis a vis gaming. It’s very strange.

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        I’ve admittedly been looking for some sort of zionist connection or intelligence operation since this whole thing blew up so big and stayed big. The zionists would want him dead if his alleged turning on them over campus speech and Palestine was real (big if), Trump and the nat-sec state would want him dead as a martyr for the right and an excuse to clamp down on the internet and real life and push through more draconian control as well as distract from the various issues they have (Epstein). So if there is some way of doing that they’d definitely have reason to whack little Charlie as he wasn’t really that important and his death probably does more for the movement to seize control of colleges than him living another 50 years ever could have. So we have one dead reactionary who is more useful in death than in life, one shooter whose actions make little sense.

        Of course there is the consideration this person was either a groyper/Nazi or a leftist but had great opsec, hid that part of themselves effectively (including from friends and family) and left nothing for investigators to find to concretely tie them to their ideological motivation.

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        That isn’t the view given by his discord friends though. His discord logs make him seem like a normal happy person who never discusses politics.

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          Being “apolitical” is irrelevant, he could still just as easily know Kirk was a vicious homophobe or have some other feature that he despises personally even if he (the shooter) never bothered to even talk about subjects that he recognized as being political.

          As I mentioned in another comment, it’s very easy to present as much more normal than you actually are even when you are basically more defined by mental illness than you are by actual personality traits. That is how I would describe myself, and I can still pass myself off as pretty normal if I choose to, with it being trivially easy over text outside of my slightly idiosyncratic writing voice that probably tips my hand on ASD. “Masking” is a real thing that many people learn how to do for various reasons.

          Remember that he was raised by conservative parents in a conservative community, he almost surely learned the behavior that most conservatives learn of keeping most types of mental illness to yourself, except insofar as they can be expressed by performing your assigned gender roles or something.