Doesn’t this imply that confirmed bigots, fascists, and racists deserve violence?

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    I don’t know what proof reactionaries would accept as evidence of a person’s racist tendencies. Elon Musk did a Nazi salute on stage, twice, to an arena full of people and that wasn’t enough. Charlie Kirk spent his career saying Muslims shouldn’t be permitted in western countries, and that he was always worried when he saw a black pilot. Deeply unserious people with pea brains. The only thing they’d accept as racism is if I say white people can’t handle spicy food.

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      The thing is that people like this make the bar for proving it so high that an explicit confession is the only acceptable form of proof.

      Talking about “prowling blacks” isn’t racist, because he wasn’t saying that about all black people. Saying successful black women like Ketanji Brown Jackson lack brain processing power isn’t racist or misogynistic, because those comments weren’t aimed at all black women. Accusing Target of grooming children for having family friendly pride merchandise isn’t queerphobic, because he doesn’t have a problem with LGBT+ who aren’t groomers. Saying Taylor Swift must submit to her husband isn’t chauvinistic, he just has traditional beliefs. It’s only evidence if he openly says he hates all black and queer people and women are inferior and must therefore be treated as property.

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        Actually, sweetie, even an explicit confession is just a joke, and if it wasn’t just a joke then it’s a sincerely held religious belief justified by faith, and if it’s not a religious belief either then it was just the truth and you shouldn’t bully people for being ‘honest’.

        Fuck.

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        I swear the people making these arguments are bots. I see a lot of activity trying to create consensus on what kind of person Kirk was and NONE if it the truth, which is that he was a right wing grifter taking money from Israel. I highly doubt he believed any of the stuff he said.

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    Charlie Kirk has a whole YouTube channel filled with irrefutable truth that he is a bigot and a fascist.

    Charlie Kirk, because he’s a fascist, when assassinated IS SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT to government and media. Charlie Kirk didn’t just have fascist values, Charlie Kirk was close to the inner circle of fascist power in the US.

    People who are not close to the inner circle of fascists do not matter. Their deaths do not matter. Their assassinations do not matter.

    “We are all Charlie Kirk” LMFAO no you’re not. You’re not in the inner circle, you’re just another working class schmuck like the rest of us, butwith the taste of fascist leather all over your tongue because you think enough licking of fascist boots will eventually earn you a spot on the inner circle as well. It won’t. You’re nothing to them, you’re disposable.

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    I have too many things to say about this. Charlie Kirk was part of the media. He also spewed far more dangerous accusations about LGBT+ people being groomers.

    It also calls for “stringent penalties for social media companies that censor information unfairly.” Obviously calling out content for being bigoted, fascist, or racist won’t be protected from censorship, but I assume saying bigoted, fascist, or racist things will.

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    Jester’s privilege. No one actually listens to us and we’re the bloody designated villains of politics, if this was a leftist, its not our fault one person took the guys who are never taken seriously, seriously.

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    can-excuse-1 “i can excuse kirk advocating for segregation but i draw the line at calling him a racist!”

    can-excuse-2 “you can excuse advocating for segregation??”

    also oh my god how does that thing have… 81,000 sig…natures… desolate

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    The guy had literally been a professional bigot, fascist, and racist for his entire career. It is the only “job” he ever had.

    Secondly, we have a lot of conflicting information about his shooter but the only communication we have directly from him was groyper shit on bullet casings. I’m not as certain as I was but I still think groyper is possible. Even an incredibly rare trans-ally groyper. It’s not like groypers need to make sense.

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    This doesn’t work when you’re the most intentionally obtuse and bad faith group of people this earth has ever seen

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    Just because I believe in an ethnically pure white state of ubermenschen doesn’t mean I’m a fascist! That’s horrible slander! Dangerous! You could get someone hurt!