• Z_Poster365 [none/use name]@hexbear.netBanned
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      communist web zone tho, supposedly. one that ostensibly supports various factions that do burn that flag all the time. So we are at best sending mixed messages here, undermining support for groups like Ansarallah and Hezbollah by enacting the same policies as the fascist zionist government for some reason. What type of message does this send to those on this webzone not from the burgerreich?

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        undermining support for groups like Ansarallah and Hezbollah

        Yeah dude those groups and the wider world are totally paying close attention to this niche shitposting site. Get over yourself.

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          there’s arab users here including myself that feel extremely othered by this white pearl clutching. many palestinians came here thinking this was an english speaking pro-resistance site, and here we have this quibbling zionist shit still. We can’t escape it.

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            How the fuck is it white pearl clutching to correct your assertion that this isn’t about Jewishness but about white supremacy?

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                I am not condemning people irl actually burning the actual flag in protest. We also have the isntrael emoji. You have had a long standing beef with the mods here I get it. But that seems much more to do with your toxic contrarianism than any actual principled stance. Now you are accusing me of “white pearl clutching” and frankly go fuck yourself I am done with you. There’s a reason you have been banned like 5 times before. IDK why they tolerate your repeated ban evasion.

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                    No there isn’t, you always throw the exact same tantrum that eventually devolves into you posting pictures of people burning israeli flags because that’s the entirety of the issue as you can comprehend it. Fuck off and stop asking for the holocaust emojis.

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                    Nobody is “always correct”. But you are right they’re an asshole and they are not right here. Zionism is not “Jewish exceptionalism” it is white supremacy. Claiming Zionism is Jewish exceptionalism is literally anti-Semitic.

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        The consequences for violation are on a hilariously different scale. Here you might get a deleted by mod where if the government’s mods say you can’t it’s actually illegal, so there’s a big difference there. You can also reach the same policy for different reasons, im kinda ambivalent on the hexbear policy and with a flag like that no matter what move you make here plays into Israel’s hand, that’s why they made the flag be that way. I also dont think it’s all thst detrimental towards our support Ansrallah or Hezbollah in their current struggle cause they aren’t reading any of this and if they did they probably wouldnt like us, they arent leftist groups, they have our support cause they’re trying to stop a genocide. Its not like we see eye to eye with these guys in pretty much any other regard, they’re just what we have rn. Its pragmatic support. Which means you dont need to go full in. I would hope those not from the burgerreich would get this cause neither of those groups represent them and therefore we dont need to mirror their behavior. Im mostly against it cause it’ll just invite really annoying federated reply guys every time it’s used

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            That simply isn’t true. Just because they oppose Israel and do things about it doesnt make them leftist by any measure. You are being absolutely absurd here.

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              They are banned now but this is the same user that once claimed that Russia is (not was but is) more socialist than China.

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                I do notice it always seems to be the most contrarian and “fuck you, I do what I want” sort of posters here who loudly demand a burning Israel flag the most. Like, it isn’t hard to express hate for Israel here, so I don’t know why they act like this is some big “censorship” thing or whatever, they accuse people of behaving like liberals, while behaving like liberals themselves, acting like the meaning of words isn’t important, just empty symbols and shibboleths.

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                  It’s largely one user who has a fuckton of alts. The reason it seems like a lot of extremely edgy contrarian posters are demanding this is because it’s actually one extremely edgy contrarian poster demanding this while pretending to be many people.

                  That’s not to say there’s not a variety of people who have thoughts on this, but it’s pretty disingenuous of Zposter to constantly act as though they’re a bunch of different people and somehow representative of all arab users on the site.

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                    Looking at the comments and upvotes on this post makes it pretty clear that more people are aligned with Z’s position than not, even if you discount the users who are allegedly their alts.

                    Or maybe we’re all their alts now idk

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                    Please read my comment above

                    I don’t think I’ve interacted with him before this but I do think it’s disingenuous to say he isn’t a representative of what most arabs on this site think.

                    “israel” has been bombing the entire region for almost a century at this point, all while waving that flag.

                    Maybe it doesn’t make sense to a westerner, but yes that flag is literally the same as the nazi flag in west asia.

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                    That’s so incredibly pathetic. They’re wasting all this time and energy on trying to get a niche shitposting site to have an emoji they really want instead of just verbalising how they feel about Israel, there’s no one stopping them. I feel bad now, imagine all the effort they’ve spent trying to push hexbear into get this emoji, instead of doing literally anything more productive with their time, they could’ve gone out and actually pushed for actual Palestinian causes, actually helped their community, even just tried to educate people on Israel and their crimes, instead they choose to accuse probably the most anti-Israel place on the internet of being pro-Israel because of a fucking emoji. Goddamn. I want them to touch grass so bad I’m going to go and touch grass the rest of the day.

                    Also, was that nazi account that showed up a little while back that demanded the same emoji also one of their alts? They’ve made a few similar arguments here. Because if so I think that alone is grounds for banning all their accounts, “cosplaying” as a nazi to “own the Israelis” is just disgusting, and I think would show their true intentions behind why they want this particular emoji so bad. I really hope that wasn’t them, I wouldn’t think they are that bad.

                    (Thread here, so you know what I’m talking about): https://hexbear.net/post/5761214

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                Im sure it’s hard to remember but was that claim substantiated at all? Im doubting it and it would be hard to recall, but if so I’d like to hear what that argument would be.