Saw a post today from a Blue MAGA type lib that was all about “don’t be mean to people that just decided to care about Gaza recently”. Libs starting to actually feel vulnerable about Dems being terrible genocide supporters for years, and they don’t want anyone to talk about it because it’s not “effective political strategy”. Same lib also posting about how authoritarian China/Xi is with heavy reference to Tinyman Square and genocide/disappearances etc.
If I had to be around a lib talking like this in person, I’d probably lose my shit.
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Exact same thing happened with Yemen. Official death toll was only like 4k for years. Then Trump went like an entire week without some scandal so the Media actually looked at Yemen again. " Oh wow the death toll is like +300k, what has Trump been doing in Yemen!?"
You’re joking right?! I was politically inept at the time so I didn’t notice. They seriously had the deathcount at 4k? And people bought that?
I remember taking about it circa 2014 in an explicitly liberal/Democrat social group that met weekly and being ignored, when Obama was committing it.
They weren’t trying to convince anyone that the death count was still 4k. That was merely the last official death count and the war simply wasn’t being reported on.
Think of it like the current war in Sudan. Even your average Palestinian activist has a vague idea of what’s going on there and it probably will put up higher numbers than Gaza.
Happy hexbear cake day!
Lol thanks!
Whispers: America Delenda Est!
:blows out candles:
critiquing the imperial war machine and the thousands upon thousands of innocents actively murdered by it is not an effective political strategy.
critiquing the for-profit corporate dominance of healthcare provisioning and the millions of innocent actively murdered by it is not an effective political strategy.
our greatest and most powerful weapon to defeat barbariam is Hamilton 2: Slay Queen Brat Summer.
There’s got to be a whole ecosystem of Hamilton copycats that I’ve managed to stay blissfully unaware of for years now . . . the only one I know is Epic, which would be ten times better if it changed some of the Hamilton parts.
lol, i was at a work social thing recently and somebody made this reference nobody got, so they followed up with, “is anyone else a Hamilton fan?” and i assumed there would be at least one to volunteer as a member of the fandom, but everybody just looked at them blankly like, “no, wrong crowd.”
literally the only reason i even remembered that lib catnip enough to reference it.
sic semper Hamilton fans
They love Hamilton, but they always forget about the part where he dunks on the pacifist whining that revolution is a bad thing. People saw the new Superman and said “those brown people are Ukraine”
Media literacy means nothing anymore
So it’s beginning already. People claiming they have always been against this.
Not even that, but that you should not talk about any history before you were against it.
History started on July 27th, 2025 (my favorite celebrity called it a genocide so I’m on board now)
When I joined an org they advised newcomers to not be snobs about it and deride people who were in the same place we had been a year or two previously. This is perhaps the biggest complaint Friends of Former Non-Marxists have. In Truffaut’s breakup letter with Godard, after May '68, he tore into his former friend for haranguing people in June for the same opinions he himself had had in April. (Truffaut continued to have shitty politics for the rest of his life, as far as I know.)
But, fuck, these last several years have made it well-nigh impossible for me to accept that advice. Covid was the biggest one for me, but the events that should have been major inflection points for anyone paying even the slightest bit of attention just keep coming.
I guess I’ll go reread “Masses, Elites, and Rebels.”
I mean, as frustrating as it is, we need to be understanding with people who have stopped deluding themselves and are now contrite and want to do the right thing.
If they’re just sticking their head in the sand using other words though, fuck 'em.
There’s probably no point in discussing China with most people, since their opinion on it doesn’t really matter or connect to other things in a systemic way unless they are using “China bad” to argue for American hegemony, which admittedly many of them do.
I’ll welcome regular people, but not the journalists and public figures who are cynically covering their asses so they can cheer for the next genocide. We need to destroy their reputations and scatter their audiences to the winds.
You seem to be demonstrating an understanding that the pertinent variable is not, in fact, if they are public figures: If they’re just ass-covering, that’s the issue. Journos, etc. are also human beings and also make mistakes (even catastrophic ones) or fall into reaction that they find their way out of. If they are sincere, we should deal with them like we should other humans and be understanding (and take advantage of their platform). If they are insincere, we should deal with them like we should other humans and take them to task.
Yeah pretty much. I just think that, at this point, two years into it, anyone whose job is to be informed and shape discourse, and is just now coming around, needs to meet a very high bar of public contrition and epiphany.
Sure, it’s not something they can be casual about, definitely, but some people are sunk really deep into the muck and a number were basically groomed into it (this applies especially to a certain subset of Jewish people in Zio families).
Yeah that’s true. I just hope that those who are experiencing a genuine crisis now can bring some of their audience along for the ride.
you’ve got libs admitting there’s a genocide happening in Palestine? that’s crazy, all I find are these types:
It’s always like this with libs. First they call you crazy for opposing the status quo, then, as evidence mounts and they can no longer deny the damage the status quo is causing, they jump on the bandwagon and buy the shirts and the flags and insist that they are the world’s #1 supporter of an idea they strongly opposed a month ago.
And then they will suck up all the air in the room and demand that things be done their way because it is “bad optics” or somesuch to do things in a way that they personally find distasteful. And the ways they find distasteful always just so happen to be the ones that will actually do something about the problem they are loudly claiming to oppose.
Then the movement gets taken over by libs and gets defanged by them and becomes useless and impotent and dissolves, and the libs start getting mad at the leftists for caring about the next social issue and the cycle repeats.
Shame them.
