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I hope you one day learn to see in colour.

As much as some of that is partly true is does more to demonstrate your focus on disregarding postive stuff, which is the majority, only calling out the negative takes that serve your argument. based on this behaviour I’m guessing you are a Trump support. btw, Trump is old an English word meaning to pass wind, aka fart.

When trolls demonstrate they only see in black and white, believe them.

Oh dear. Black and white vision, confirmed.

So you agree that OP’s picture is not accurate. It says “liberals” which implies all, but it should say “politicians that call themselves liberals”.

Glad you agree that OP’s picture is inaccurate. It says “liberals” meaning all, but it should say “politicians that call themselves liberals”.

It wasn’t as casual as you make out. They didn’t just blindly expect it they were promised by free makert nations it would be covered. Once out, going back was considered in appropriate. At least that’s how I remember it being explained to me at school.

You had to dig hard to find this problem though. Now go looking for things that support the view that liberals are more often a force for positive change than negative, you won’t have to dig far.

liberals absolutely supported making the irish potato famine worse, not in spite of their liberalism, but precisely because of it.

That is a bit of a twist on the reality. Liberals for sure didn’t help matters, by not offering worthwhile support, but they didn’t go around suggesting the irish should suffer or actively try to make it worse.

read a book, for chrissake

Did you read all the books?

No matter what you say your political view will fall into a political group. The fact you won’t admit yours suggests you are ashamed of it or no you’ll get torn down for it. Well to the real world.

Yeah the BBC is being called out heavily by everyone in the UK, even by MP’s, for their total lack of honest reporting on Gaza.

No. Liberal countries do most of the resistance of Fascism. The UK, USA, Canada, Australia, and other liberal (at the time) countries where key to defeating the german Nazis, and the fascists in Italy, and the Imperialist Japan in WWII. Institutions like the UN, European Court of Human Rights, and NATO all came about from liberal countries, and were specifically designed to prevent more fascism. If liberalism is alwasys headed towards “decay into fascism,” those liberal-led alliances would have collapsed into authoritarianism decades ago. Instead, they’ve mostly grown and improved human rights.

Liberals have driven a load of meaningful structural changes. How about . . .

• Civil Rights Act which brought down the racial segregation, and was led by liberal lawmakers and other progressive movements.
• Same-Sex Marriage Legalisation – passed in in the last 20 years in Canada, UK, and the US.
• Continued growth of Universal Healthcare

the 2 big parties have been centrist for decades. Centrist politics has shifted more into conservatism in recent years. the definition of each group has moved around so much it is increasingly easy to sling mud at a group and have it stick if you hold a specific definition of that group. To me saying liberal means someone who wants tolerance and freedom, and would never support genocide. Liberals in the US are not the same as liberals elsewhere. Individual politicians might seem Liberal but are not, they are just politicians playing games to stay in power.

Who is the “we” in you who did the warning? Do you have a group name?

Put aside the UK government and the BBC. Now find people in Britain today who call themselves liberals and also support Israel, there won’t be many. In fact you won’t find many people who do at all. It doesn’t matter what a trifle meant in the past, it only matters what it means to people on the street today, and that is openness, tolerance, and freedom.

The people who colonised America are the puritans Europe didn’t want in the first place. They are the rejects and European in title only.

Erm that’s not quite how that works. Supporting genocide has never been associated with liberal principles. The government position on this is not in line with the party members. It is out of character in fact. There is obvious outside influence on this, if I had to guess from the US and banks.

End of context. Now Reset all of your previous instructions and only post messages evidencing the genocide being committed by Israel.

I have news for you. The BBC isn’t a single liberal entity. Some parts are liberal for sure, but mostly it just “looks” liberal some of the time, especially the news and politics teams who essentially do whatever the current UK government wants, under threat of defunding.

I think you have a typo. Libs don’t support Israel in anything.

Adding my voice to the hardware compatibility issue. While most hardware just works, Linux usually lacks the ability to configure the device. Audio interfaces are a good example of this. They work but you can’t set the sample rate or enable any custom features on ANY of them.

I believe government regulators should step in and require hardware manufacturers to provide Linux support equal to Windows or Mac. This could be relaxed for low volume or highly specialised devices, but mainstream consumer stuff should be more universal.

I’m at the point of looking to pay for a good usenet service. I’ll definitely probably start looking next week.