Just wondering what the consensus would be. Is it good and fine (if you like the taste, of course) because it is truly 100% vegan? Or would y’all consider it a horrifying simulacrum of a product of cruelty towards animals?
I am asking because I’m a vegan chef and I was excited to find out that they’re making animal-free “dairy” milk through bacterial/fungal fermentation, because plant based “milks” don’t really work the same as cow milk does. And theoretically if it has the right proteins/fats it could be used to make vegan cheese that has the actual properties of cheese? So like I think it’s very exciting personally. But I’d like to know what others think before I suggest we try to order some, since it’d be a waste if nobody actually wanted to eat anything made with it.
Fine by me. I’m not against food science, I’m against killing.
Sure. I’m vegan because animals don’t want to die. I’m totally cool with synthesized food (as long as it doesn’t need fetal bovine serum, etc). But on a practical level, I can’t see “lab-grown” anything becoming cheaper than animal products for a long time, because biology is just so efficient. A lot of the substitutes out there, I consider the $6 pint of fake ice cream and I instead pay $3 for a quart of Italian ice.
I don’t get a face full of mucus from soy milk so I’ll stick to that.
but would you be actively repulsed by like, a cooked dish that included animal-free “dairy” milk, which is what I would be interested in using it for? as long as it’s 100% from fungi/bacteria
or are you saying it causes some mucus response even if you’re not just drinking it straight
I’ll be honest, I’m not super far into my vegan journey(only about 2 years) and there are some flavors I do miss, so if you could make like a cruelty free Alfredo sauce with lab milk and cheese and such, I’d be curious to try it. But it would probably fall under the “treat yourself” umbrella of once in a great while. So probably not a regular daily consumption thing.
I was never really “repulsed” by animal products growing up so I don’t think that would be an issue. I’m still vegan for ethical and moral reasons, I still wanna put that out there.
Mucus response is maybe some form of lactose intolerance thing. I can just remember needing to go clear my nasal cavity and throat after drinking milk. I don’t get that at all with soy, almond, oat, etc. I do also get the same sensation with saturated fats from like hamburger but not from lean plant protein so not sure if it’s actually lactose or just that animal-based foods just aren’t great for me as a diet.
Does it have cholesterol like regular animal milks? The health implications would be a factor to consider for many folks.
this specific product I saw on Target’s website says 0 cholesterol
Something important and that you should mention (especially because I did not expect it) is that it’s also lactose free. As a lactose intolerant person who actually embraced veganism because of this that’s interesting
no because cow milk tastes/smells gross
i disagree with you on both counts (it doesn’t really smell very strongly unless it’s going bad) but I will still upvote you, thank you for your opinion and input my good comrade <3 <3 <3
if you don’t have dairy for a while, the smell of it becomes very noticeable. there’s nothing plant based even close to it. it’s very noticeable and pretty gross but if you’re a regular consumer of it you don’t really notice it.
heavy dairy consumers sometimes have a very dairy-heavy BO as well which i think they also don’t notice.
milk and meat at the last two things keeping me from a completely plant based diet and lemmy’s has given me a few things to try to replace meat and i hope that milk is on the horizon too. soy and oat milks are okay; but they’re pricey.
The reason I’m asking this is because they have animal-free “dairy” milk, apparently, as I just found out. It’s expensive but it’s about on par with rice/soy/nut milks, I think? it’s like $5.29 for a quart
not cheap enough to replace drinking dairy milk if you’re someone who does that, but IMO cheap enough to consider for use in recipes which call for milk which you’d like to try to make vegan
i curse the federal government for giving me a taste for cold milk and cheese due to all of the government cheese & powdered milk i grew up consuming. lol
i curse the federal government
i’da just stopped there tbh
