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fell-for-it-again gunpoint cia “Thank you for helping me with my propaganda, now please go to the concentration camp”

    • Ocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      19 days ago

      Or the live footage of the genocides elsewhere in the world are more attention grabbing than secret videos

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        19 days ago

        That’s true, things filmed in secret in China that apparently fit western narratives are extremely unpopular, that’s why I didn’t have a picture of tank man on the wall of my history classroom in high school and people don’t constantly repost the still frame on Reddit.

      • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        19 days ago

        or the secret videos didn’t reveal much

        or are you suggesting there really is a secret uigher genocide even when the west walked back its claims to “cultural genocide” and literally a single fucking look at Xinjiang would show what a load of shit that is

      • MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        18 days ago

        People are jumping on you because you’re from dbzer0, an instance which we have learned to mistrust (rightfully). I’m gonna play the good guy role and try to bridge this gap for your sake and for the sake of everyone reacting to this.

        Your statement follows this logic: the attention videos get (and implicitly, the journalism surrounding it) is related to the viewer experience of that video (its attention grabbing-ness), and impacts how widely it is spread or cared about.

        People attacking are pointing to a specific difference in argumentation; mainly, that the amount of attention videos get is directly relates to 2 factors: 1 how real the contents can be proven to be and 2 how much the media system pushes them.

        So the claims of those arguing against you are that you are implicitly ignoring the reality which 2 different media represent (Palestinian Genocide vs Uighur Genocide) and collapsing that into 1 dimension. This implies that you find the events relatively equal in reality but with different levels of attention-grabbingness in the specific video-content. Idk if you meant to do this (and I will assume for now that you didn’t) but it’s a common trope libs use to equate the 2 and act like “2 things can both be bad” while only 1 of them has systemic support.

        The other point that you implicitly miss (again, I’m assuming you’re good-natured so it’s just miscommunication) is that the filter which media sets up is much stronger than many of us realize. The Chinese guy’s fame and the video’s impact is almost entirely pushed by a western media system independent of any individual interest from readers (aside from that created through adding more (fake, in this case) context). Once it was no longer useful, that media apparatus threw him away actively, not just to replace him with Palestinians. Palestinian videos are homemade and rarely featured in Western-Media systems without added (fake, again) context which attempts to discount them. The success of Palestinian videos is almost entirely due to Palestinian efforts and individual sympathies outside of Palestine.

        Because of these 2 major differences in concept you communicated versus what is more important in material reality, people are assuming you’re a chud.

        I’m gonna upvoter your comment though because I am assuming you meant well and just noticed how shitty the quality and content of the Xinjiang video is. And how Palestinians documenting their own genocide do it much better, and so people are clearly interested.

      • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        19 days ago

        Maybe if the Chinese genocide resulted in any deaths (with the resulting dead bodies) it would’ve been more attention grabbing. That’s the problem with the genocides that don’t kill anyone. The world just doesn’t care.

        Edit: There’s a tinge (at least) of antisemitism to your comment. The worst genocide in the history of humanity was committed by the west, in relatively recent history. Eastern Europe is littered with the bodies of those jews (and Roma, and gays, and slavs…). These people were killed to protect the private profits of a handful of rich westerners. Now you’re invoking the horrors of the holocaust to make a bogus accusation against China because China is a threat to the private profits of a handful of rich westerners. You’re using the mass deaths of the holocaust, again, to benefit the rich. But here’s the problem for you personally. There’s no heaps of dead bodies in China, and you know there should be. You know what you’re saying is bullshit. You don’t care about the reality of genocide at all. For you genocide is good, because it gives you a rhetorical tool to use against the enemies of your favorite rich people.

        • Ocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          19 days ago

          Are you talking to someone else? Because I didn’t say anything about the Holocaust. I wasn’t talking about the validity of anything.

          All I was trying to say was that because we can see what’s happening in Palestine and in Sudan this fell out of most people’s range of attention. What about that is anti-semitic? How am I even criticizing the ccpr? When did I call anything happening in China a genocide? Taking a comment about The new cycle in writing a rant accusing me of Holocaust denial is unhinged. Maybe step away from the keyboard and find a way to self-regulate.

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    19 days ago

    Isn’t he the guy who just drove around Xinjiang filming “scary” looking buildings? You can get more data from satellites than whatever this dude was doing.

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      18 days ago

      Lol I remember some reports about “slave camps” from satellite photos (think they were blue roofed), and it turns out it was just worker dormitories for workers who come from other provinces to live in while they’re away from home.

      • Hexamerous [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        If I remember correctly, some think-tank guy from Australia produced the satellite photos after people were asking simple questions like “where is the infrastructure to house 1,5 million people?” so he just went on google earth and started drawing red rectangles around buildings. That’s the “proof”.

        Real Iraq moment.

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        18 days ago

        I once posted images of the Guantanamo on reddit subs calling it Uyghur concentration camps and then calling liberals Dumbfucks in the comments. This was back in 2019 at the peak of this Bs.

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    19 days ago

    This shouldn’t happen to anyone. Im sure that people who helped the nazis get to power also ended up in gas chambers, doesnt mean id be all 'lol, get wrecked about it.