Are Lemmy anarchists okay? How does this person have 24 upvotes? In what universe are anarchists NOT doing class analysis, (therefore) don’t want to abolish capitalism, and don’t want to fight archism?

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I suspect this is just because libs absolutely DESPISE comrade @Cowbee@hexbear.net and will upvote anything smart-sounding that supposedly addresses whatever is being discussed?

Also, gotta love the whole “I have this opinion and many anarchists will disagree and that’s what anarchism is about”. Like, buddy, you haven’t read one book or talked to one anarchist IRL, let alone organized in your entire life.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    10 days ago

    It makes me wonder if there is an anarchism of the 21st century. Something that actually logically works in theory and could be materially implemented.

    Working on it. The task of redesigning a society in a way that is stable in the long term* and does not have class contention is tricky, you end up needing to have a prototype for an entirely new civilization from the ground up.

    *On just the scale of the scale of the 21st century, resource and ecological collapse is going to utterly topple virtually every existing society. Even had the USSR not undergone degeneration and even prevailed against the capitalist world, they would be imminently struggling with overshoot and resource scarcity.

    A caveat, though, is that anarchism is never pure, it always has its peculiarities, and “rejecting the label of anarchist” like @Cowbee@hexbear.net mentions is one of the most common things anarchists do.

    Interestingly enough, the projects I’m involved in could fit the bill of “as close as you can get to an-prim while still being serious and having continuity”. We like to emphasize permaculture, appropriate technology, and technological transparency, “permaculture communism” is something we often like to call it.

    For some examples of basic needs, you can build wildly efficient and comfortable buildings (timber structure, strawbale insulation, masonry/rocket-mass heater) with Neolithic technology, in non-tropical climates you’ll need glass too. In a wet-enough climate (Köppen-types A, C, and D) you can cut out almost all need for the plumbing grid with rainwater collection, slow sand filters, and composting toilets, all 100% pre-Classical tech. For electricity we’re used to using maybe 5-10% of what normal people use, rocket stoves and heaters displace a lot of that need; we’re still very reliant on solar panels and LEDs. We could plausibly have CHP stoves that require blacksmithing and a minimalist supply chain for electrical parts; those probably wouldn’t be as good at power generation as PV solar.

    Building networks and standards for collective self-defense and preservation is difficult; unsurprisingly it’s the human side of things that’s far more challenging than the material one.