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I was gonna say that probably wouldn’t help but then I saw the modern weapons. They would rip through the opposition like they were field mice under a roto tiller. Just bring like…all the ammo. You’re gonna need to HOLD Harper’s Ferry for the long term and that is gonna be tough with only 4 automatic weapons. With the proper displacement of forces with at the time current weapons i think it could be done, mostly cause a key access point is a bridge which would be easy to guard with an automatic weapon against flintlock guys. How to deal with artillery once it gets to that point would be a huge issue.
Iirc, the intention wasn’t to hold Harper’s Ferry it was to raid the arsenal and then evacuate up into the mountains. Brown stuck around too long because he was expecting reinforcements that never showed.
They could have done even more time traveler-y bullshit and not even directly interacted with John Brown.
Pop in with those weapons, full combat gear and load out, 180 to 240 rounds of ammo each, radios, scopes and binocs.
Split into two groups of two, position one team in the hills on the north side of the Potomac, a bit South of the current day (and historical?) Naval Battery Outlook, put the other team at the modern day Ridgetop Outlook, with ability to reposition if the Naval Battery Outlook team can see something they can’t.
(Apologies for whipping up shitty map on mobile)
Lets say these weapons are all… Daniel Defense M4V7s, with about 1 MOA accuracy.
Let Brown start the attack, and the South of Naval Battery Outlook team can operate as Designated Marksmen doing overwatch, and plink off Armory Guards and ‘local militia’ with accurate fire from across the ridge… ideally, allowing JB and his crew to be able to hold the much more defensible Armory than the house he was forced to make a hasty retreat to in our timeline.
As the alarm is raised, the Ridgetop Outlook team basically lies in wait for an ambush, or if reinforcements come from an area they have bad visibility of, South Of Naval Battery team can tell them where the baddies are coming from and where to reposition.
The time travelers have dramatic advantages.
Smokeless powder.
The enemy will realize they are being shot at, but will likely have absolutely no visual indication of where from, instead having to just try to figure it out by ear.
Much, much better accuracy and range… and reload speed / time before needing to reload.
Even the further removed South of Naval Battery team will be shooting roughly 5 inch groups at worst, at the range they are at.
Aim for center mass, and thats still pretty much a guaranteed hit for each shot.
The Ridgetop Outlook team is intended to plan on repositioning if necessary, so they’ll be at an even closer range.
Basically, just act as guardian angels, assist with the initial assault on the armory (JB and his crew canonically march south along the road Naval Outlook team is north of, then across the bridge), screen the entire counter attack against Brown, help put the fear of god into the inital Armory defenders… and heck, maybe bring some swan feathers or something, scatter them in with some piles of spent casings, and maybe now Brown is both a succesful revolutionary and also has the mandate of heaven.
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I also forgot to mention something … possibly massively historically relevant:
The force that responded to Brown’s raid on the armory?
Led by Robert E Lee himself.
Maybe make him a high priority target for our timeline rectification force.
If I remember correctly, historically Lee’s force came marching down the major road just south of the Ridgetop Outlook… but time travel tends to make things fucky wucky (that and ‘no plan survives initial contact with the enemy’), they may come in from a different route, hence Ridgetop team planning on potentially needing to reposition, under direction from the other team who is more elevated on the other side of the Potomac.
But if Lee approaches from what I think is the ‘canonincal’ route, then they’re already well positioned for an ambush.
EDIT:
Fucking Jeb Stuart was Lee’s second in command, add his portrait to the card deck.
There was a game about this called like
Darkest HoursDarkest of Days or something lolYou know, I remeber watching some kind of ‘wtf is this weird game’ type review of that game sometime ago.
I don’t think it involves John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry, but yeah basically its like… a WW1 soldier, I think?, is ‘killed’ in the ‘canon’ timeline, and the literal instant before that, he is timefrozen, recruited by the timepolice into the timepolice, and is then deployed to various civil war (and other?) battles to … unfuck some other kind of nonsense some … basically timeterrorists are doing.
… Something like that.
Also, it is apparently now abandonware.
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/darkest-of-days-ipk
… I was gonna post a gif of Einstein shaking Hitler’s hand and dematerializing him, from Red Alert, but I can’t actually find any, and I can’t find a screen record -> gif flatpak that works on Bazzite… no Wayland support.
… Do any of the TimeSplitters games go to the civil war? I don’t remember.
I think it was oboeshoes that reviewed it
Do images work in site taglines because if this isn’t immortalizing-worthy material idk what is
I agree but as a pedantic correction those soldiers are going to have percussion cap black powder rifles not flintlock muskets
Fuck! I knew that! Thanks for the correction, didn’t stop to think before posting there.
forget john brown, go back to king phillip’s war
Seems easier just to shoot a few rounds off at the landings at what would be Plymouth and Jamestown and popped a hole in some sails the whole hornets nest might be avoided.
pull up to columbus’s “fleet” in the middle of the atlantic and fire some grenades at them or whatever. make sure to do the same to the portuguese about to discover brazil too.
Just nuke europe
I still think you could maintain accurate fire on their artillery position and basically pick off anyone who mans the cannon.
Artillery can arc, bullets cant
Maybe I’m underestimating what a bunch of slavers with muskets can accomplish, but I think one could sally out and just capture that artillery, no? Would they even understand what kind of fire power they were up against? Think about how poorly the military leadership adapted to technology advancements like machine guns during WWI, and then put that power into the hands of a single mobile soldier instead of a fixed position. I just don’t see how that kind of advantage could be overcome.
I do think the sheer terror of an automatic weapon would probably fuck up the opposition pretty good. Probably sending a force of normal for the time dudes and flanking with a ar 15 guy would be best. All guns are gonna be on your AR 15 guy so you still wouldn’t wanna be too sure of yourself.
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direct action adventure time travel
If you showed up with AR15s and enough ammunition they’d need to bring the whole building down with artillery cannons to get you out.
Even then, huge tactical advantage pushing into them to seize their artillery. What are they gonna do, bayonet me? Accurate and repeated fire from 100m away vs a bunch of guys with muskets and a canon: who would win?
My money’s on the AR15s tbh I think the other side will shit themselves when multiple people are accurately shot by something they can not see 300meters away.
Find someone who looks at you the same way they look at a box of 5.56
