• ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Los Angeles is the worst city built in the best location on earth. I hate it with a passion.

    I’m not sure which I hate more, LA or Orlando, which is the worst city built in the worst location on earth.

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      LA is the worst city I’ve ever been to, it’s just endless miles of paradise paved over. It’s a city sacrificed to the automobile.

      I tried taking the bus while I was there and it was almost funny how hostile the transit system is. One stop was literally in the middle of a freeway that was only accessable by taking a set of stairs off the overpass. The entire time you’re waiting for the bus you’re trapped in a concrete cave that amplifies the already loud freeway noise, it’s horrible

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      You know that trope of a little kid that follows a theme park mascot and then sees them take their helmet off to see it’s really some sweaty middle aged dude with a mustache in there? That’s what going to LA is like, all the romantic glitter and glamour of “Hollywood” dissolves and you just see this smoggy, dingy reality underneath it.

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      I’ve visited once and wasn’t there long enough to develop a sincere and true hate, but I was astonished by its geology and climate. While I was there I tried to contemplate what it was like before the settlers came. Just imagine standing at the tops of those hills with the basin stretching out beneath you. That scene is intoxicating to me even now, years later. And I know that same feeling is one of the reasons it’s not that way today.

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          But at least Houston it almost makes sense because it’s built on the surface of the sun, so I understand the desire to exist entirely within climate controlled pods.

          Los Angeles has the best weather on the planet and should be a walkable paradise

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            But at least Houston it almost makes sense because it’s built on the surface of the sun, so I understand the desire to exist entirely within climate controlled pods.

            You can put AC in Transit but also Houston was around before the car anyway

  • TheVelvetGentleman [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    We all know that a giant seawall will be erected at some point. And of course it will be at the expense of the poor to protect the wealthy. Maybe they can turn the poorer neighborhoods into beachfront property.

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      Oof sorry in advance this got longer than intended…

      I know there are plenty of other case studies of post-disaster predation by capital, but Fort Myers Beach, FL comes to mind. Hurricanes Ian and Milton destroyed the long-standing businesses and the communities (typically mobile/RV park style set-ups) where the employees lived. Those areas were bought up by investors to build new hotels, surface lots, etc, so then wealthier people move to the coastal-adjacent but protected areas (typically destroying coastal marsh in the process), and poorer people are relegated to urban “affordable” housing (typically destroying inland/brackish marsh in the process) with long commutes to locations where they could previously set up trailers (as its often seasonal labor).

      So now there’s a few concentric “rings” of threats/risk. Beachfront - risk is mitigated by developers having new properties built at higher elevations (subsidized), leaving the first levels for parking, and through dredging/expansion of beaches (subsidized, with the caveat of providing whatever dogshit transit they will for public access). Generally a losing battle to squeeze out money while they can. Land is subsiding, sea level is rising, and storms are growing in intensity. The biggest risk is to the indigent labor who are less agile in their ability to evacuate/not work during a hurricane.

      Interior to that - wealthier people move to the coastal-adjacent but protected areas. These are at less risk from storm surge for now, but land subsidence and sea level rise mean it will be a bigger threat down the road. Additionally, storms produce increased precipitation, and as these sites are former coastal wetlands, they lack the topography to drain at a rate preventative of flooding (disregarding that they were never meant to drain in the first place). So these suburbs receive pumps, etc (subsidized), and emergency response when needed (provided by the working class). The biggest risk here is the loss of wetlands preventing further land loss and mitigating surge, and of course to wildlife like the endangered panther.

      Finally, poorer people are relegated to urban “affordable” housing, which faces similar threats of increased precipitation and inadequate drainage, but with the increased difficulty of evacuation (especially since most have to work until the last minute) if it’s even a possibility. More than likely these will be inadequately built and maintained and will produce mold, structural hazards, etc. These are also typically a long ways from the areas of work, and have inadequate transportation.

      Similar responses are/will happen for wildfire re-development (LA, CA), riverine flooding (Fargo, ND), land erosion (MA coast), etc. Minimize disruption to the wealthy landowners, maximize profits to speculators, and pass the costs and risks to the workers.

      Just my two cents

  • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    For a sense of scale It’ll take about 500 years for this to happen at current estimates, 260’ ft of sea level vs the 10’+ we can expect to put Miami underwater in the next few decades