HOI4: TNO’s update is coming out today and it’s including tons of subideologies. Here is a link to the whole thing.

On a side note, I find it hilarious how “Democratic Socialism” is a subideology of Social Democracy :bernie-pout:

  • geikei [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    4 years ago

    If you exclude the ones that literally dont exist , the ones that dont exist for more than 10k people worldwide and the ones that arent leftist and then combine the ones that are basicaly the same thing in practice (applciation of the same theoretical framework into different countries’s conditions) you end up with what, 7-8?

    1. Democratic Socialism

    2. Anarcho Communism

    3. Marxism-Leninism

    4. Leftcom stuff

    5. Post left stuff

    6. Non ancom anarchist stuff

    7. sigh… Social Democracy

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    4 years ago

    Mod’s fun and has a lot going for it but it’s lib as shit. Still can’t get over the “Grey Scare” and the CIA backing communists to fight fascism.

    Like yeah, ok, let’s just ignore literally the entirety of US history and how the actual Nazi ideology was inspired by the American project.

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    4 years ago

    This mod is good, folks. They’ve essentially turned a Paradox game into a book with all the reading you have to do, and each nation has its own storyline to play through. It’s also very anti-Nazi, which you would normally take for granted but WWII fanboys can be :agony-consuming:
    The UK story is especially good, you basically run the British resistance against Nazi occupation with a subplot about a lesbian couple that joins said resistance.

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    4 years ago

    On a side note, I find it hilarious how “Democratic Socialism” is a subideology of Social Democracy

    Because it literally is. I already wrote on this a while back but I’ll refresh anyone who missed it:

    Democratic Socialism emerged as a schism from the Socialist Party USA deciding to rebrand their party to Social Democrats of the USA, and the minority who weren’t shitlibs said fuck that and decided to split and form the pre-party formation of DSA. DSA differed origionally from SDUSA as having more of a proletarian internationalist outlook critiquing their old party for being too in lock-step with the feds over smearing shit over the legacy of the USSR and Soviet Socialism. That said as far as I’m concerned the old formation of DSA was electoralist socialist at best, with the current formation of DSA essentially out Social-democrating the fucking Social Democrat Party USA.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        4 years ago

        I enjoyed reunifying the USSR as West Siberian People’s Republic as fucking libshit as the mods interpretation of the resurgence of Marxism-Leninism in Russia. Like after you finally reunite the western half of the shattered lands you clearly see them just fucking give up writing anything decent and turn Lazar into the same megalomaniacal caricature they smear Stalin with and somehow suddenly conjure up an all-seeing all-knowing secret police that can spy on literally everyone at all times to the point they can see the scrounged face of a worker towards agitprop and make him disappear.

        They did my boy Iron Lazar dirty and I can’t forgive this insult

        • Azarova [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Yeah, they really went in on “”“authoritarianism”“” bad without any nuance. The funny thing is that their lore basically implies Stalin literally saved the world :chad-stalin: