In fact, I don’t even understand what the logical argument(s) for the death penalty are?
Outside of special circumstances (guerilla war with no capacity to imprison someone, critical prisoner who will be imminently recovered by reactionary forces due to military advance, etc.), none I’m aware of. By definition, I think if you have the stability and resources to carry out an extended legal process for the death penalty then you don’t need it because you can imprison someone instead.
As far as I know, the death penalty is often not carried out in cases like this, and instead commuted to imprisonment. It would be better to abolish it altogether.
i’d extend that to precarious states that are the enemy of the global hegemon. it’s not imminent but you don’t want collaborators around. and then that’s only justified to the extent of the evil of the hegemon.
and then that’s only justified to the extent of the evil of the hegemon.
I would say that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than the great satan. There’s no cause to execute anyone outside of extreme precarity, generally in active warfare. A good example is Che executing a traitor during the Cuban revolution. If you are able to keep counter-revolutionaries imprisoned in a place they cannot be extracted from and used by reactionary forces, then killing them serves no purpose.
i should’ve written more, i think the more evil it is the more threatening its agents are and that changes the calculation of whether holding them is more trouble, whether you can trust their guards etc.
Jeanine wasn’t a threat once the coup was rebuffed but if she was dead she’d be dead instead of getting out (and i know they don’t have capital punishment in Bolivia which is admirable, but i think executing a coup leader is acceptable). a more hypothetical example might be that holding them drives a movement for their release while execution has a sharper spike but much less capacity to build anything.
i prefer the Puyi treatment, and i certainly don’t think a bourgeois state is ever legitimate in killing anyone, but i think it’s fine if high-ranking officials who do premeditated white collar crimes get the wall.
Outside of special circumstances (guerilla war with no capacity to imprison someone, critical prisoner who will be imminently recovered by reactionary forces due to military advance, etc.), none I’m aware of. By definition, I think if you have the stability and resources to carry out an extended legal process for the death penalty then you don’t need it because you can imprison someone instead.
As far as I know, the death penalty is often not carried out in cases like this, and instead commuted to imprisonment. It would be better to abolish it altogether.
i’d extend that to precarious states that are the enemy of the global hegemon. it’s not imminent but you don’t want collaborators around. and then that’s only justified to the extent of the evil of the hegemon.
I would say that we should hold ourselves to a higher standard than the great satan. There’s no cause to execute anyone outside of extreme precarity, generally in active warfare. A good example is Che executing a traitor during the Cuban revolution. If you are able to keep counter-revolutionaries imprisoned in a place they cannot be extracted from and used by reactionary forces, then killing them serves no purpose.
i should’ve written more, i think the more evil it is the more threatening its agents are and that changes the calculation of whether holding them is more trouble, whether you can trust their guards etc.
Jeanine wasn’t a threat once the coup was rebuffed but if she was dead she’d be dead instead of getting out (and i know they don’t have capital punishment in Bolivia which is admirable, but i think executing a coup leader is acceptable). a more hypothetical example might be that holding them drives a movement for their release while execution has a sharper spike but much less capacity to build anything.
i prefer the Puyi treatment, and i certainly don’t think a bourgeois state is ever legitimate in killing anyone, but i think it’s fine if high-ranking officials who do premeditated white collar crimes get the wall.
Appreciate the reply! Totally agree with how you elaborated it