• Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 days ago

        Nah. You can see in the video (which is obviously incredibly graphic and I wouldn’t recommend anyone watch) he immediately passes out. The shot effectively ripped open his carotid artery causing his head to dump blood and his heart to pump out all of his blood. He was passed out within one or two seconds. I’d suspect dead in under a minute due to no oxygen to the brain.

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          Thank you for the correct terminology. I’m not a huge watch videos of people die even if they deserve it kind of guy but so many people are saying he was hit in the jugular and then clearly describing arterial spray.

          Whatever screw is loose in my head that can’t let this go was tightened ever so slightly by this post.

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            I think people use jugular because it’s a more familiar term in pop culture or just everyday usage. “Go for the jugular” is often used as “Go for the kill” when describing dog attacks and such.

            But yeah it doesn’t take a doctor or anything to see the incredible spraying of the blood and recognize arterial bleeding. From there just a bit of first aid knowledge tells you “bro’s dead.” Can’t tourniquet off the head… he’d need a prepared surgeon next to him. Even under those perfect circumstances my understanding is such a wound is more than likely fatal.

            Although I will say on a really morbid note or whatever. I found this video not all that disturbing in comparison to the perhaps hundreds of videos I’ve seen of Palestinians being murdered in every possible way. I’m not even going to detail further but people that have seen them probably know what I mean. It’s like Kirk was still a human even as he was sitting there bleeding out. A whole body. Still a recognizable figure.

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              Yeah your heart is really strong and the carotid has to maintain a high volume to supply a 100% perfusion uptime to the most nutrient-hungry part of your body that also happens to be the only part that has to be pumped against gravity at all times.

              If you’ve ever seen a cracked drain line vs a cracked supply line it makes sense that the descriptions of the wound couldn’t be coming from the jugular.

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        I’m just speculating here. Video says that this is a professional job not like Trump’s assasination attempt. That’s why, I said this.

    • No. A solid neck shot is just as fatal and “painless”. This one in particular created an instant blackout due to complete blood pressure and flow loss. But the doubly fatal part was the spinal cord strike - you can see from the rictus posturing that the whole body was suddenly reacting to “no signal found”. He wasn’t conscious long enough to feel any pain, and any pain he could have felt at that point would have been from the chin up.

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        Yeah, the dude was immediately unconscious and probably died on the ride to the hospital if not on the spot. “He was taken to the hospital in critical condition” is just theatre. 95% of the conversation at the hospital was determining cause and time of death to put down on his death certificate.