“Electricity isn’t energy” - US Secretary of Energy
the sun has never given us anything
If capitalists could charge people for using the sun in any capacity, they would
Just wait until you realize making an orbital solar station and beaming it down is way better land use wise and actually produces an insane amount of energy
Yet another reason I will keep stanning China. They’ll have this operational while we try to go back to whale oil for some reason
while we try to go back to whale oil for some reason
Don’t give RFK ideas…
It puts the whale oil on its skin, or else it gets the colloidal silver again.
definitely don’t teach him about videogames and then have him play Dishonored
Do we have any actual working examples of high-power microwave power transmission yet? Seems kinda pointless to say they’re building the satellite when we don’t even know if the tech works.
Japan has a project working on this too, but it’s all theoretical, nobody has even made a scale model of the tech yet. It would be so fucking cool tho.
Afaik there have been small successful tests on this, China’s station is designed to be scalable so if it doesn’t work out as expected they can can it
Ok, so add the caveat: “Yet another reason I will keep stanning China. They’ll have this operational [if they can prove it’s possible] while we try to go back to whale oil for some reason”
Now 100% true
I think there was a high-ish power test somewhat recently
It should definitely work
Always. Average PRC W
way better land use wise
Unfortunately the least of all problems for solar
actually produces an insane amount of energy
It’s not enough to justify the launch costs, only like 10x more or so I think?
and im sure when faced with fact checking he changed his opinion.
oh wait he didnt? he doesn’t even have an opinion beyond “whatever my donors tell me will get them the most money”? thats crazy i really thought we had them this time
The face you make when a US politician wriggles their way out of yet another jam:
Why do we have a Clapton emoji
That’s not Clapton; it’s Jeff Tiedrich: https://x.com/itsJeffTiedrich/ If that was sarcasm, apologies. I don’t usually catch sarcasm.
For posting on those occasions that an overrated white celebrity does a geriatric racism, like Clapton
Another case in “people just making up shit.” It’s so easy to make up shit. It’s even easier for people to believe your made up bullshit if you hold a fancy title in government or smth. Specifically in a capitalist state, you are under no obligations to report the truth, your only and key obligation is to facilitate wealth transfer and keep profits consistently growing. And even then, you can fail miserably at that and still be saved because you’re a nepo baby.
Legit there needs to be harsher punishment for engineers who act in a way that is knowingly detrimental to humanity. Mostly I mean like engineers need to do the equivalent of beating this guy with a sock full of oranges or whatever lol. If I signed off on a bridge design that failed I’d be in deep shit - but electrical engineers (and plenty others) get off scot-free for the most detrimental nonsense which perpetuates a path to destruction
Pure burger logic.
Now I’m no scientist but as I understand in a sort of general sense the energy of the sun came down and was stored in all the plants by turning that energy into growth. Then those plants got buried and that stored energy gooified up into oil and we “extract” that energy by burning it.
So, really, a roundabout way to get your energy from the sun.
And this fucking clown shoed moron thinks getting that energy from the source is inefficient.
Lord have mercy on us all.
there is a part of me deep down that wants our planet to be conquered by aliens and for this solar plant grid to happen
I know that feeling.
remember when you thought the truth mattered? I do… I think I was ten
People on this website have made exactly this argument btw
People have opposed solar panels here? When?
I remember a few users who were so pro-nuclear they were anti-everything else, but they were chased off
A few glowing rocks that heat water / sodium vs. a completely natural, self-sustaining, highly exothermic, possibly divine(?) sphere of extreme magnitude
I will say that the advances China has made in Fusion technology will basically put the power of the sun in our hands, but I also think solar panels are cool and work well
Need a mixed approach here
I think the final form of the grid is something like wind/solar primary generation with nuclear backup and hydro in areas where you need the dam anyway for flood control, and a lot of extra energy being generated to run carbon capture that pumps co2 back underground, but it’ll be a long time before any electrical grid on earth looks anything like that.
Fusion will still be way too expensive for most applications
The glowing rocks are also natural and exothermic, and both will self sustain for long after we are dead (possibly of radiation poisoning)
Wish i could remember exactly but it was a Hexbear user arguing there isn’t enough land on earth to generate enough solar power
That’s a hell of a take
There must be a bataillean purge of those who question the power of the sun
I have no idea how anyone with brain could or would make such a brain dead clim
The measure “1.5M TWh/day” is making me irrationally angry. It’s 62.5 PW.
TBH, this calculation doesn’t take into account solar cells’ energy conversion efficiency (15%-20%), energy transfer inefficiencies and weather issues, so 1% of land should be multiplied by at least 20.
1 kilowatt of panels in Alice Spring, Australia producing an average of 5 kilowatt hours a day or about 1800 kWh a year
So roughly 5 square metres per 1800 kWh annually, or 360 kwh per square metre
One square kilometre is a million square metres, so we get 360 gwh per square km
Global energy use of 180,000 twh or 180,000,000 gwh, that’s 500,000 square kilometres
Total land area of 150,000,000 square kilometres, so a third of a percent of land area.
Overbuild by 10 times because we haven’t built a global electricity grid, still only 3.3 percent of land area or 2.5 million square kilometres. For context, meat and dairy agriculture uses approximately 40 million square kilometres and urban use is ~1.5 million to 2 million square kilometres.
Alice Springs is in the middle of the desert though, very sunny all the time. It’s not a good place use as the average amount of energy generated for solar panels.
That’s why I added an order of magnitude to the total land area requirement
From a few seconds of googling (so the figure may be wrong), in the UK the average solar panel output per m² is 186kWh per year, about half of the NT figure.
So if everywhere was the UK, we’d need 0.6 percent of total land area.
Because we don’t have a grid that stretches from the northern to southern hemisphere, you’d need ~5 times the amount in winter (already included in the annual average figure used, but we’re looking for a very conservative estimate), so 3 percent of total land area if everywhere was the UK.
You still didn’t take into account day and night, weather and losses due to energy transfer over long distances. And solar cells degrade over time, lowering their efficiency. Calculating only by nominal power is wrong even for coal (capacity factor ~ 60%) and nuclear power (capacity factor ~ 90%), and for solar it varies wildly depending on where it is located. In Arizona deserts it reaches almost 30%, in Bavaria only 12%, and the farther to the North you go, the worse it is.
Addressed in the first paragraph - 1 kw is 24 kWh a day. 5 kWh suggests a 20 percent capacity factor. Degradation is minimal (less than a percent a year).
Why would you be going further north than Bavaria? Bavaria is already very north. 90 percent of the world’s population lives south of Germany, roughly.
Anyway you’ll see the last 3.3 percent of total land area is what would be required if solar only had a capacity factor of two percent.
He simply watched this scene to prepare for his job
just do a sick-ass ring of them like in gundam
If merit mattered whatsoever this would be deeply embarrassing for any professional lol alas that’s not really who fills these roles.
lol. Thought I’d check his credentials because I assumed he has no engineering/science background… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wright . Is MIT just the “Chicago school” of dogshit engineers these days or what?
You did the thing where you assumed he didn’t know that he was lying.
True. Occams zebra or whatever
