I originally summarized my observations replying to Blaze in a different thread
I figured I’d include them here because in case anyone wants to correct my interpretation.
I had asked how he feels about posting in a com alongside people who are calling other users ‘removed roaches’
He brought up that Hexbear users using the word roaches to refer to people too, my response:
From that link pretty much all of the usage is talking about the literal insect, or talking about reactionaries/fascists using it to refer to muslims, immigrants and other ‘undesirables’.
Out of the handful of remaining uses, it’s stuff like in the hexbear thread on this meanwhileongrad thread:
This is the most questionable usage I found, and it’s referring to fash/reactionaries.
That’s not the main point though, the bigger issue was getting called a ‘removed’ that’s pretty much a red flag that someone’s a cryptofash.
citing db0 on this one:
compare the use of the term on shit vs on hexbear:
While looking I found this one on hexbear from 5 years ago, almost 90 upvotes shitting on stalin for criminalizing homosexuality, and quoting him calling someone removed. I read this as extremely critical of Stalin:
All the usage on hexbear I see is either self-deprecating or discussing (negatively) about people using the term.
meanwhile on meanwhile on grad:
hmmm, calling people removed and complaining about commies, progressives and furries. 
Goat seems fine with replies calling people he doesn’t like removed:
more examples:
site admin calls it out, entirely downvoted lol
Like you might think I’m being melodramatic, but I really don’t see how meanwhileongrad isn’t a nazi bar.
As I said, I don’t have a dog in this fight, it seems indeed bad to have such comments on both sides.
I really hope you re-assess both sides, because they are not equivalent.
I understand, there’s plenty of problematic posters to go around, the issue I have is that it’s normalized calling an instance which is overwhelmingly trans and queer ‘removed’, that’s a major red flag, and it’s behavior like that which was why hexbear defederated shit in the first place.
sh.it doesn’t seem to have improved in that time
As a bonus here’s some fun clips from this latest two minutes hate thread:
Goat has been really worked up lately, I arrived after the defederation happened, but I read the hexbear threads related to this not long after I started lemmy and his interpretation of events is comically conspiratorial.
The chronology was that hexbear had been off doing its own thing for like 3 years, and only re-merged with lemmy due to the technical issues maintaining a separate fork. That happened to coincide with the major reddit wave, correct me if I’m wrong but nobody here is taking orders from dessalines, right?
It looks like Hexbear tried to broadly fedarate, some users were looking forward to it, but others apprehensive and preferring to keep everyone else out. Once it became more clear how toxic and unmoderated most of the fediverse was, they made the decision to defederate.
Also is there a discord? The only matrix groups I’m aware of are for mods and the trans space. People should probably be aware that there’s potentially nazi trolls hanging out there.
One last one for the road, goat upvote policing and accusing db0 of being pro-uygher genocide.
so what’s the official hexbear line on calling people removed or cockroaches?
I would say since one of the words is auto-removed by our slur filter that speaks for it and dehumanizing language is inappropriate and subject to moderator removal.
Goat is an rdrama user that intentionally copied the username and avatar of a leftist mastodon admin and is 100% cryptofash/rage-baiter for laughs.
The fact that some of the most popular communities on sh.itjust.works are greentext, and NCD in addition to MOG combined with the fact that the instance’s most vocal admin, imaqtpie, is a transphobe and racist is further proof of the instance’s political bent.
Not compatible with hexbear and it isn’t helped that their admin did nothing when one of their users started sending pornagraphic images in DMs to hexbear users is more than enough reason to stay defederated from sh.itjust.works.
When hexbear started we had to fork from lemmy due to the large amount of users overwhelming the software at that time. Due to the large amount of changes and the loss of the hexbear maintainer it took a long time to remerge with upstream lemmy which allowed for federation.
We had a uservote about if we should federate and how, within that post I included messages from any communities that wanted to add to the federation post. One of those was from the news community which was taken as an official hexbear platform. Many admins also point to my comments of my personal beliefs that it is our duty to confront liberalism. I also made some jokes about “unlimited PPB on the lemmyverse” or some other silly things that were taken by other admins as evidence that hexbear is a focused and concerted brigade community.
Why would we organize on discord which is notorious for it’s privacy leaks, the only instance that I know uses discord is lemmy.world. Our self-hosted matrix rooms are anemic in activity and are public other than the moderator chat which is 20 people and for discussion of moderation on the site.
I haven’t spoken with any of the .ml admins in months and not in any regular capacity. I found the shared admin rooms to be extremally cliquish and were willing to spread blatant lies about hexbear to each other
I remember (i dont think i post it on c/slop) that the sjw admin made a big post and comments complaining about anti-american bigotry in the lemmyverse
Big
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Yep, and claimed Russia and China are “pushing the trans issue” in order to stoke anti-US bias… I shit you not.
It’s like the US complaining that the USSR played up USian racism, and not complaining about the actual racism 🙄
Seriously.
Didn’t even realize that was slur filtered here! Incredible how normalized that language is elsewhere.
gross, can see why they get along
that’s fucked up, good lore though; if you have info on that I’d love to see it.
that tracks with the rest of the general behavior