After the recent struggle session which resulted in
CW: It’s pretty self indulgent considering the gravity of the actual situation.
I am left disquieted due to various people who represented zionists positions directly or held space for these. Particularly (but not only) those who are admins and mods. People who think the above image is a “holocaust flag”. And otherwise seem to have conjured a fictious form of anti semitism, just for deploying here.
Well OK maybe it is allowed to give people a week or a month to mull things over and reconsider their positions. But do we come back to it? Or should I just seethe with resentment, hold a grudge, and snipe about other things going forward?
On the other hand, the majority & plurality were on the correct side of things. So that’s good. I just… Idk I don’t expect hegemony but this is literally such a simple issue. I don’t know how anyone who feels different could feel comfortable on this site. it’s like learning mods/admins are triggered by a guillotine.
In some ways it could be “the fighting is so fierce because the stakes are so low”. (The stakes = emojis)
But on the other hand, the stakes are so huge and this is just the scale of fighting that’s near at hand.
Nobody ever accused me of being perfect and well behaved so maybe I’m just throwing stones from a glass house. I explicitly must consent to whatever critique in that regard.
I would like to suggest that on the new user signup page the question be changed to read
What are your views on GSM / LGBTQ rights, racial justice, animal liberation,
Although I have no idea what sort of answers people make to these. So maybe it’s stupid.
Fucking shit. People are fucking being fucking murdered right at this fucking moment.
The funny thing is that the star is not even the star of David but an identical symbol called the seal of Solomon. As far as I’m aware, the star of David is just the seal of Solomon used within a Jewish context, and since the Zionist entity isn’t remotely related to Judaism because Zionism isn’t Judaism, then that pretty much seals the deal in terms of whether it’s the star of David or the seal of Solomon, doesn’t it?
And unlike the star of David, the seal of Solomon has been put on flags before. Here’s some examples:
Flag of Nigeria when it was a British colony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Nigeria_(1952–1960).svg
Coat of arms of the Regency of Algiers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lesser_coat_of_arms_of_the_Regency_of_Algiers.svg
Personal standard of some Ottoman admiral: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BarbarosSancagi.svg
Imperial standard of Haile Selassie I: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ethiopian_imperial_standard_of_Haile_Selassie_I_(obverse).svg
And here’s perhaps the most Jewish coded seal of Solomon:
The blue and white makes you think this is actually a star of David, but nope, it’s just a blue and white themed seal of Solomon. Judaism has nothing to do with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service. There’s a grand total of 55 Jewish people in a country of more than a million.
Just because zionism and judaism aren’t equivalent, doesn’t mean they’re not related. It’s a Jewish supremacist project and the flag is supposed to represent “the Jewish state”. It seems disingenuous to claim that this symbol isn’t there in a “Jewish context”.
This is like saying that when a Christofash uses a cross, it’s not a cross that is symbolically representing Christianity because clearly Christianity isn’t represented by Christofascism.
Burn the flag, but this is yet another really silly and contrived argument.
“israel” and its founders are antisemitic enough that i think this at least gets called into question but idk
They are profoundly antisemitic, yes, but that doesn’t make the star not a symbol of Judaism.
I’d like a knowledgeable Jewish comrade to weigh in on this before I believe this immediately. There’s likely a historical relationship between the 2 that we are not seeing and that makes this a pretty vague, possibly incorrect post.
I’d also accept a historical expert’s take
@AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml @AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml hallo friends sorry if you feel tokenized by this but I consider you both good sources on the matter
Star of David is the flat one, Seal of Solomon is the interwoven one.
Though it should be noted that neither was a signifier of Judaism until Zionists declared it so.
This isn’t true, it was a symbol specifically associated with Jewish communities centuries before Zionists coopted it (and that’s part of why they use it)