When presented with conservative-biased chatbots, Democratic voters supported substantially reducing government expenditures on education, while Republicans did the opposite when presented with a liberal-biased chatbot.
The typical American voter is swayed by a light breeze lol
Vibe based politics can be swayed by the vibe based machine? Shocked
Well of course, the typical American will google “how do i cook chicken” and if the Google AI (or top result, if this was 10 years ago) said ‘you can eat chicken raw without any issues’, they would believe it to be objectively true. I think it is less about LLMs and more the fact that Americans are fucking stupid & will gladly adopt the stances of whatever a presumed ‘expert’ tells them about X, Y, or Z.
LLMs are just an excellent way to do this because the average American thinks there’s some sort of magical omniscient gnome trapped somewhere in the internet that will give you an objectively true answer about any question you ask it. So, again, in short - the typical American is a fucking idiot.
Chicken sashimi slander was uncalled for tbh
Chicken sashimi
any slander against this abomination is definitely called for. The Japanese will be made to justify the crimes against humanity they created when they came up with torisashi
Very funny that actual experts are usually ignored.
i forget the details but i remember a post recently about some dipass who ate some shit he shouldn’t have because LLM and no secondary investigation.
one person replaced their consumed sodium chloride with pool salt (sodium bromine) in an effort to remove chlorine from their diet. they gave themselves bromism from listening to a LLM
yeah that’s the one. completely unreasonable levels of trust in the magic box
I recall one about a couple who ate toxic mushrooms because their book on the matter had been written by AI.
that’s extra fucked because you’re supposed to be able to trust books more. Even then, in ye olden days i was taught not to eat wild mushrooms period and not to attempt foraging for them as an amateur.
The way they’re already circling the wagons over on
about Newsom is proving they haven’t learned a thing.I realized this when I did some extensive canvassing for a Democratic candidate (because it paid well). Americans do not even vote ideologically. A prime example of how voting and most electoral work is utterly pointless.
You can draw a direct line from the general sentiment that drinking a beer would be less pleasurable in the presence of Al Gore vs George W Bush and shit like ISIS bulldozing Palmyra. Shit sucks lmao I hate it here
It really is making more and more sense why the ruling class is going all in on this stuff. This allows for social control they could only dream of in the past.
Yeah I’m starting to think it’s their solution to internet censorship. They can’t control it the way they can with cable television or newspapers. So they’ve decided if they can’t filter information, why not flood the internet using LLMs and AI images? Then people won’t believe anything they see, forcing then to rely on “credible” journalists for the news.
I noticed it first at work, before any LLMs came out even, that “who said that” / “Where is that information coming from” would get a a surprisingly set of people very mad and then tell me “they heard it somewhere”. And this wasn’t rumours or whatever where you wouldn’t want to disclose your CI, this was like “Well I heard company policy is X” and that was to be treated like gospel, even if the source of this was “I think I remember somebody telling me this at unknown point in time”
mgs2-colonel-ai-monologue.txt
quick, someone flood the market with TrotGPT
Every American gets their own newspaper
Oh fuck, I was gonna make it into Deng, but between the 2 Americans will definitely choose Trotsky’s ass
i’ll be completely up front, i thought the newspaper reference worked, but mostly i thought TrotGPT sounded quite a lot like ChatGPT. wish we could have DengGPT though
Oh TrotGPT was definitely the funnier joke, but it also reminded me of the struggle we will have against the trotskyist tendency once Americans are finally forced into class-struggle revolutionary fervor.
Ethics & environmental problems aside, what’s stopping us from creating MarxAIst chatbots that automatically dunk on libs online?
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Also conservative and liberal LLMs are the same thing arguing minutiae, not trying to get people to overcome decades of propaganda denying that anything but liberalism works and that other systems are viable. Like an LLM discussing how private school vouchers aren’t as good as property taxes or vice versa isn’t challenging anyone’s worldview. A chatbot that shares Marxist theory needs to overcome the kneejerk hollering fascist ape that’s been surgically implanted into every liberal’s frontal cortex by their lifelong immersion in the hegemonic order
a chatbot that shares Marxist theory needs to overcome the kneejerk hollering fascist ape that’s been surgically implanted into every liberal’s frontal cortex by their lifelong immersion in the hegemonic order
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That hollering fascist ape deserves a robot calmly guiding it towards the left. Maybe with bots doing the first part of radicalizing we can focus on the people who are closer to our views and need more nuanced discussions. IDK just a random thought.
I’m restless with tech skills that I’m not using because my small business SaaS idea is not working out.
These tools are getting cheaper so there’s a day where I can see a homebrew server running an LLM that has responses for all of the possible objections to Socialism without us having to keep rewriting the same talking points over and over. Imagine the r/TheDeprogram auto response bot but everywhere
Chatbots that don’t bullshit haven’t been invented yet
Ironically, if you’re using a prompt and Marxist-only RAG, you’d have to use a Western LLM for that. Deepseek’s censors are ratcheted down to the point where it becomes useless for anything political as it errors out whenever it mentions Mao, Deng, or Xi (although it can mention Zhou Enlai without issue). Kimi or Qwen might be a bit more permissive, but I believe they still crash upon mentioning Xi which is a massive downside when trying to make a Marxist LLM.
If this were to take off I imagine it would have to be a Llama trained homebrew LLM and not anything owned by a corporation. I imagine pointing an LLM at marxists.org and transcripts of Matt Christman’s videos and go from there.
Llama is owned by Facebook, that’s what I mean by Western
Ah didn’t know that
I thought the API isn’t like that, only if you use it through the UI. Or you could just use another version of deepseek hosted elsewhere.
The API and web UI have the same censors. I believe they are baked into the model itself.
what’s stopping us
Our childish outlook on the issue.
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Most people don’t really understand the practical implications of policy, they just go on feelings. When they let their guard down, and are presented with information that seems correct, they will go along with it. You could literally talk a lot of chuds into being leftist if they wouldn’t get defensive by seeing you as a communist. It also works the other way. Libs can be talked into some heinous shit if it’s presented to them like a wikipedia article.
This has been a problem since I was a kid. We used to go over sourcing information on the internet and this is exactly how it was. It’s all vibes.
The consequences of a vibes based worldview and reading only YA novels
I’m sure this will have no ramifications for how it will be used to present information in the future
how do we not have zuck emojis
But of course! Americans are primed by their entire education and every single media outlet their entire lives to be conservative and to associate left ideas and topics with evil
while Republicans did the opposite when presented with a liberal-biased chatbot.
yes, they were less inclined to believe liberal output because they too have been primed their entire lives with conservative propaganda
Looking at the graph and re-reading the sentence it seems like Republicans were swayed to increase government expenditures on education by the LLM
I can see it being true. An LLM isn’t going to get emotional, isn’t going to feel the need to insult or mock anyone, has infinite patience, and can make itself sound friendly. Arguing with libs of all flavors feels like they’re trying to say “I’m better than you” in so many words. It’s all posturing and for someone like me who is rejection sensitive I don’t have a lot of patience for it.
The average american voter is swayed by shiny objects.
