• Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      isntrael So we have this but you really really want it to have a star of david. Do you not see how fucked up your logic is here? Also there’s a reason you’ve been banned like 5 times before.

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              Why should I engage in any faith good or bad when they accused me of “white pearl clutching” when I told them that Zionism isn’t about Jewish supremacy it is about white supremacy and to look to how they treat non-white Jews?

              We all know that emoji represents Israel it just doesn’t have the star of david on it. So the only issue they seem to have is not having that symbol on the burning flag emoji.

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                You escalated it into an argument and repeatedly accused them of antisemitism. Your first reply in this thread ends with “get over yourself.” You picked a fight.

                You’re doing the exact same thing here, but now you’re doing it as a victory lap so you can talk shit to someone who can’t reply. You’re arguing past them and not in any way engaging with what was actually said. It’s deeply reddit behaviour.

                The fact that they got banned and not you for your blatent violations of the code of conduct is pretty concerning. This isnt how you should treat comrades.

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                  Z poster has been constantly hostile to practically everyone to the point of being banned multiple times. They should have been banned for ban evasion prior to this engagement. They repeatedly used the phrase “Jewish exceptionalism” and accused me of “white pearl clutching” when I pointed out that it was actually white supremacy that drives Zionism and gave examples regarding non-white Jews being discriminated against. I’m not talking past anyone I was calling out this specific poster for constantly being a contrarian asshole and in this case treading over the line from anti-Zionism to literal anti-Semitism.

                  The fact that you all really want to die on this hill of burning the Israeli flag but specifically with the star of david is a bit concerning to me.

                  We have had multiple users here going full blown anti-Semitic and saying shit like it is right to distrust Jews because of some polls about support for Israel. If I violated the code of conduct, that is only in response to Z Poster REPEATEDLY violating it while engaging in ban evading and vote manipulation with alts.

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                    They repeatedly used the phrase “Jewish exceptionalism” and accused me of “white pearl clutching” when I pointed out that it was actually white supremacy that drives Zionism and gave examples regarding non-white Jews being discriminated against.

                    Supremacist ideology isn’t exclusive. White supremacy and Jewish supremacy can very easily co-exist. I can’t find anyone in this thread claiming that non-white Jews aren’t discriminated against in Israel.

                    The fact that you all really want to die on this hill of burning the Israeli flag but specifically with the star of david is a bit concerning to me.

                    The Israeli flag contains a star of david. You cannot burn an Israeli flag that lacks one as it wouldn’t be the Israeli flag. It would be an imaginary flag of an imaginary country that you invented to get mad at, instead of the very real country which is currently finalising a genocide. Zionists conflate being Jewish with being Israeli to accuse their critics of being antisemitic. You are helping them achieve this goal by continuing to act like the Israeli flag is essentially a Jewish flag. It isn’t. It’s the flag of a white supremacist state. I personally don’t really want to burn any flags, I think it’s probably bad for my lungs. I also don’t really use the burning flag emojis because the emoji finder on here is slow as fuck to load things when I search and also it feels pointless to me.

                    There are people currently dying, and you think it’s a great idea to run defence for the flag that their murderers hide behind. It’s civility bullshit, and very pearl clutchy. (Is “white pearl clutching” clutching of pearls by a white person, or the clutching of white pearls? Probably the former I guess.)

                    I don’t really care about zposter(or their alleged army of alts.) I don’t know them and can’t recall any notable interactions with them. They seem like a bit of a dick, really. But not any more of a dick then basically every user here is to random libs who stumble in with bad takes.

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                    Z poster has been constantly hostile to practically everyone to the point of being banned multiple times.

                    It is my opinion that someone who has a history of toxicity should probably not be the one policing the hostility of other users.

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              Not really, that’s the only thing that’s missing from our representations of israel, and the thing that Zposter keeps requesting - the specific image of the star of david burning. No other representation will do, only a star of david on fire.

              It’s not like this is new, they’ve been doing it for years, and it always comes down to them specifically wanting a burning star of david rather than any other representation of Israel.

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                Not really, that’s the only thing that’s missing from our representations of israel,

                No, the thing that’s missing is a representation of Israel the country. Lehi or any other individual Zionist organisation is not the problem with Israel, the problem is the Zionist project which itself is symbolised with a flag on which there is a star of David.
                The “Burning flag” emotes don’t really add anything to my experience of this site, but it is absolutely caving to the zionist framing of Israel as having ownership of Jewishness to say that you can’t denigrate their flag specifically because that’s antisemitic.