Gross response.
Here’s the Bad Empanada video I finessed this title from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69BlRK9Jql0
Rare Hasan L. Why the fuck is he doubling down on this? Does Bernie really mean that much to you Hasan? 
Gross response.
Here’s the Bad Empanada video I finessed this title from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69BlRK9Jql0
Rare Hasan L. Why the fuck is he doubling down on this? Does Bernie really mean that much to you Hasan?
Why do you think BadEmpanada is literally any better than Hasan?
All streamers are bad because streaming is bad praxis.
One is a succ dem loser, the other is a socialist mocking him from the left with correct criticism. One is objectively better than the other here.
Besides, it’s irrelevant who is “better”. This post is pointing out Hasan’s disgusting action that he took. Because BadEmpanada made a criticism of it suddenly you rally around Hasan and derail the critcisim into petty squabbling? Honestly this type of parasocial attachment is pathetic and a big problem on this site.
Oh and you are not also engaged in petty squabbling? Get the fuck off your high horse. BE isn’t on your side anymore than he is Hasan’s “Z-poster”.
Hasan is also an obnoxious streamer who arguably does more damage than good, I even said I don’t even necessarily include him as part of ‘the left’ but I was saying that BE annoys me more personally because of his consistent support of imperialist talking points. It doesn’t fucking matter if you ‘critique Hasan from the left’ or not, you have no actual method of affecting him as the majority of his audience at this point is based on people thirsting for him. If he didn’t learn earlier in his career he’s not gonna learn now. I am not ‘rallying around Hasan’, so don’t fucking strawman me.
Edit: Fuck’s sake.
Of course BE sucks, he’s just right here and in many other cases where he criticizes “breadtube” westoids
I don’t expect Hasan to listen to leftwing critique. He’s an opportunist social fascist like the rest. I expect better from communists and marxists on this site than to bend themselves into pretzels defending him due to their parasocial failures. Really, I’m not criticizing Hasan here - it’s a settled argument that social democracy in the west is not revolutionary and is reactionary. There’s no discussion to be had, the “ultras” won this argument decades ago and it’s more true than ever. What i’m ultimately criticizing is people in this thread and on this site who call themselves “communists” who just act indistinguishable from breadtube leftoids, who espouse Social Democracy instead of Communism. Who, whenever a discussion is raised here between the radicals and the leftwing of fascism side with the latter for some reason instead of just joining us in derision.
We would probably not even talk abut Hasan much if he wasn’t argued over and defended constantly on obviously hypocritical grounds. If you just joined in the choir the post would have 5 comments of people making jokes and 1 post every couple months or whatever. It’s constant and controversial because you fight back and apologize on behalf of the obviously wrong party. The many biases that cause western leftists to do this sort of thing have been long discussed and outlined.
Oh good. I don’t care if he is correct here. One of my overarching goals on this forum is to repeatedly bring up that BE is bad and shouldn’t be posted until I don’t see him anymore, much like you do with Hasan, except I was specifically addressing what was posted, and you were addressing me as if I am part of this ‘Hasan fan club’ you apply to the forum at large. Way to universalize the particular there, definitely makes it seem like you are talking to me in good faith.
If a link to BE wasn’t posted, I would just made fun of streamers in general, Hasan in particular, and moved on. That said, Hasan will likely remain in the political zeitgeist as long as he keeps his good looks, and so will unfortunately come up in discussions of American political culture. It’s fighting a losing battle. BE, on the other hand, as no actual relevance outside of niche leftist streamer bullshit and if he can’t even clear the hurdle of anti-imperialism I don’t know why we should ever have to hear from him on anything.
Yes, social democracy is a dead end, and Hasan is bad and not a socialist. And BE is bad and him criticizing Hasan correctly doesn’t mean we have to hear from him. And some people here would sell out their weak communist principles (because very few people here are actually part of a socialist party) for a whiff of social democracy, and that sucks and is bad. If we agree on these things, we are on the same page. If not, idk where we can go from here but I’m sure we’ll find out.
I don’t disagree with anything you said, they both suck, and agree I should have used “we” instead of “you” because I wasn’t really directing it ultimately at you so much but it definitely reads as that. I was directing it at this community in general, this thread, and several prominent users. I apologize for the vague posting.
Hasan was the subject of attack in the post itself, and I was coming at this as a meta-discourse whereas you were responding to it being a BE video which I didn’t watch nor pay attention to. We were talking past each other here.
Thank you for the apology. We definitely were. Good luck on the proselytizing.
If streaming is bad praxis, the bigger streamer would be doing worse praxis
Possibly. If the action is bad praxis because it is taken, the size of the audience does not matter. If the action is bad praxis because of the affect on the audience, then the size does matter. Both are at play here.
To drop the pretense of objectivity, BE annoys me far more because he himself is such a dead-ender and seems to exist purely to bottom-feed off of criticizing the actions of other leftists. I’m not even necessarily including Hasan in that category, it’s just that that is all BE seems to fucking do.
Which other leftists as of recent? He just shits on individual fascists and fascist countries like pissrael
There have been multiple videos of him criticizing Venezuela and China, but only when there are conflicts placing them in the spotlight. In particular, he was against Maduro banning the Communist Party of Venezuela, calling the elections illegitimate, despite the fact that they had been actively calling for external intervention in the country. I’m not exactly sure what he expected to happen.
Maybe he has shifted focus, but he’s always been incredibly perjorative and rarely well informed.
He’s also under the illusion that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was wrong and that Ukraine is handily defeating Russia.
Oh right yeah thats true, I thought you meant individual leftist youtubers.
He could have been doing that as well, idk. The only time I come across his content is when it is posted here. I am not a fan of back-seat drivers, particularly ones that don’t actually have a plan of action outside of stirring the pot.
Well his channel has been consistently pro-Palestine for a very long time, most of his videos since Al-Aqsa flood have been about the genocide and ethnic cleansing. He is a coping in that he attributes more importance to his channel than what is warranted but from what I have seen, his content is generally good on Palestine.
Ah thank God the bare minimum. That was only mildly sarcastic.
I’ve seen him talk about how streaming isn’t activism and he and the other political streamers achieve nothing politically. I saw a video of him saying this like a week ago.