Honestly I agree. “Genocide” requires intent, and just like with individual level crimes proving “intent” makes things way more difficult even when the perpetrator keeps shouting “Mass murder is my intent!”
Intent shouldn’t matter. Whether you intended to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians or if they actually were incidental in your quest to “destroy Hamas” doesn’t fucking matter, you killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, that should be the crime in itself.
On a regular basis zionists officals look straight at the camera and say lets do the holocaust but to palestinians.
They arent hiding shit, the only reason why isntreal isnt nuremberged yet is because of its usefulness to do internal fascism and imperialize the middle east.
On 9 October 2023, Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant said,
I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly
On 11 June 2024, the official Israeli X (formerly Twitter) account tweeted that “Gazan civilians participated in the horrific events of October 7”, later citing a statement in a clip that “there are no innocent civilians there”.
Israeli energy minister Israel Katz said: “All the civilian population in Gaza is ordered to leave immediately. We will win. They will not receive a drop of water or a single battery until they leave the world.”
On 29 April 2024, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said, “There are no half measures … Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat – total annihiliation. ‘Thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.’ There is no place for them under heaven.”
In August, Smotrich said that “it might be justified and moral” to “starve 2 million people”
President of Israel Isaac Herzog blamed the “entire nation” of Palestine for the 7 October attack. He added: “It is not true, this rhetoric about civilians being not aware, not involved. It is absolutely not true.”
Deputy Speaker of the Knesset Nissim Vaturi wrote on social media that the government was allowing too much aid to enter Gaza and that the IDF should “burn Gaza now”. In a separate post he remarked that Israel’s goal was “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the Earth.”[297] When asked to clarify his statements by Kol BaRama, Vaturi reiterated that Gaza and its inhabitants must be destroyed, saying: “I don’t think there are any innocent people there now… If there is an innocent person there, we will know about them. Whoever stays there should be eliminated, period.”
Yitzhak Kroizer, who represents the extreme-right Otzma Yehudit party in the Knesset, said in a radio interview that the “Gaza Strip should be flattened, and for all of them there is but one sentence, and that is death.”
Tally Gotliv of the Likud party called for the use of nuclear weapons against Gaza
Ariel Kallner, MK for the Likud party, wrote on social media that there is “one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of [1948]. Nakba in Gaza and Nakba to anyone who dares to join”
In February 2024, May Golan, who serves as the Minister for Social Equality and Minister for Women’s Empowerment, made a speech in the Knesset in which she said:
I am personally proud of the ruins of Gaza, and that every baby, even 80 years from now, will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did when they murdered their families,removedd them and kidnapped their citizens! Neither a dove nor an olive leaf, only a sword—to cut off Sinwar’s head!
Oh yeah I’m well aware, even with that requirement this is the clearest most documented case of “definitely genocide” that has ever been, Nazi Germany was not this explicit about their intent.
But I do think that intent question should be done away with all together and having it just gives Israel another way to deflect and delay and question.
Also I guess my solution isn’t getting rid of the word genocide, it’s just getting rid of the requirement of intent for calling something a genocide. It should just be based on something like percentage civilians vs fighters killed, attacks on civilians infrastructure (deliberate or not) and some other clearly defined metrics that you could know without ever speaking to one of the perpetrators.
Honestly I agree. “Genocide” requires intent, and just like with individual level crimes proving “intent” makes things way more difficult even when the perpetrator keeps shouting “Mass murder is my intent!”
Intent shouldn’t matter. Whether you intended to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians or if they actually were incidental in your quest to “destroy Hamas” doesn’t fucking matter, you killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, that should be the crime in itself.
If it requires intent you have it in spades with the Zionazis.
On a regular basis zionists officals look straight at the camera and say lets do the holocaust but to palestinians.
They arent hiding shit, the only reason why isntreal isnt nuremberged yet is because of its usefulness to do internal fascism and imperialize the middle east.
yeah but in this case they literally do say that
Oh yeah I’m well aware, even with that requirement this is the clearest most documented case of “definitely genocide” that has ever been, Nazi Germany was not this explicit about their intent.
But I do think that intent question should be done away with all together and having it just gives Israel another way to deflect and delay and question.
Also I guess my solution isn’t getting rid of the word genocide, it’s just getting rid of the requirement of intent for calling something a genocide. It should just be based on something like percentage civilians vs fighters killed, attacks on civilians infrastructure (deliberate or not) and some other clearly defined metrics that you could know without ever speaking to one of the perpetrators.