• LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      2 days ago

      this platform was absolutely under the auspices that bombing iran to prevent nuclear proliferation was part of it

      they are two separate things and were always presented this way by the trump camp

      HE ALREADY BOMBED IRANIANS IN HIS FIRST PRESIDENCY i cannot stress this enough and also said he would do so again this was no secret and his base absolutely knew he was going to do this fuck on my street they set off fireworks when he bombed iran all the little trump flaggers were out with bottle rockets and sparklers

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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        2 days ago

        Again, it’s very clear that his base wanted isolationism, and they’re now very upset at him for bombing Iran. I don’t know why you’re unable to acknowledge this basic fact of the situation.

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          9 hours ago

          They did not and they are not. I’m not debating this, I’m telling you. They supported him and his cabinet being open about wanting to bomb Iran leading up this. They supported him and his cabinet when he bombed Iranian officials in his first term. They still support him and his cabinet after this. They are supporting him in his continued threats against Iran. Whatever it means for them to be “upset” in regards to this it does not translate to any opposition to his actions past, present or future with intent to bomb Iran. I don’t even know what you mean by it. They lit fireworks in my neighborhood right afterwards in the suburbs of west Florida where there is no shortage of Trump supporters. Were they fireworks of anguish? Were they so very cross at him? No, of course not. I have not come across a real world Trumper that thinks the bombing of Iranian nuclear sites was a mistake. Those people are outliers and their discontent has no call to action and is therefore meaningless in the realm of politics where they will vote for it again and again. Call me a Calvinist if you must: only actions matter.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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            8 hours ago

            What are you even talking about here. Carlson ripped Cruz apart over attacking Iran, he’s as prominent as it gets. It’s very clear that there’s a huge rift forming in the republican base right as we speak.

        • The problem with this discussion is that his “base” is being treated as a monolith when the fact of the matter is there are both significant numbers of isolationists and warhawks who are diehard Trump fans. I don’t know what the breakdown is for the percentage of each one, but I think it’s probably safe to say that the majority of Trump’s base doesn’t care about his choice to bomb Iran. They’ll cheer him on as being tough for uhmuricah when he does drop bombs but pretend they always said they’re “against unnecessary war” when he babbles his isolationist rhetoric.

          Most of his base is vastly more concerned with his backtracking on his promise to release the Epstein files than they are about Iran.