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Again, it’s very clear that his base wanted isolationism, and they’re now very upset at him for bombing Iran. I don’t know why you’re unable to acknowledge this basic fact of the situation.
They did not and they are not. I’m not debating this, I’m telling you. They supported him and his cabinet being open about wanting to bomb Iran leading up this. They supported him and his cabinet when he bombed Iranian officials in his first term. They still support him and his cabinet after this. They are supporting him in his continued threats against Iran. Whatever it means for them to be “upset” in regards to this it does not translate to any opposition to his actions past, present or future with intent to bomb Iran. I don’t even know what you mean by it. They lit fireworks in my neighborhood right afterwards in the suburbs of west Florida where there is no shortage of Trump supporters. Were they fireworks of anguish? Were they so very cross at him? No, of course not. I have not come across a real world Trumper that thinks the bombing of Iranian nuclear sites was a mistake. Those people are outliers and their discontent has no call to action and is therefore meaningless in the realm of politics where they will vote for it again and again. Call me a Calvinist if you must: only actions matter.
What are you even talking about here. Carlson ripped Cruz apart over attacking Iran, he’s as prominent as it gets. It’s very clear that there’s a huge rift forming in the republican base right as we speak.
Cucker Tarlson is not indicative of the majority of Republicans and I don’t even assume that his interview is anything more than shit-stirring for views. He’s an opportunistic little worm, that one. But even assuming his “anger”, if you can even call it that, is transferred to the average Republican it has in no way translated to any loss of support for Trump at all whatsoever. At best a few Republicans grumbled, even more cheered, and they’ll vote for it all again. You sound like a delusional lib posting on TikTok “TRUMP IS DONE NOW HIS SUPPORTERS ARE FINALLY TURNING”. They are not. Not even a little bit. Not for this.
The only thing I’ve seen Trumpers even remotely begin to waver on is the import tax shit because it’s starting to hit their budget and small business. Maybe the cuts to medicare/medicaid will be another sore point but we won’t see that for a while.
Thanks for posting this. I don’t have to get evidence for my claims when you provide them for me. 3 links and not one supports your claim that people are mad at Trump over the Iran bombing but rather for other things that are directly affecting them, which is what I’ve said.
Thanks for demonstrating that you have an incredibly superficial understanding of the subject you continue to try and opine on. If you bothered to watch the Blumenthal interview I linked above, you’d see why I posted these links and why they are relevant. The Epstein case has become the focal point for the anger at the system, and Israeli influence, which is directly connected to the war with Iran. The maga base is increasingly seeing Trump as being controlled by Israel.
The fact that somebody could have a more narrow understanding of what’s happening in US than a maga chud is frankly hilarious.
the fact that you keep calling me a lib is really the most hilarious part of this whole discussion to be honest, and I don’t think you even realize why
The problem with this discussion is that his “base” is being treated as a monolith when the fact of the matter is there are both significant numbers of isolationists and warhawks who are diehard Trump fans. I don’t know what the breakdown is for the percentage of each one, but I think it’s probably safe to say that the majority of Trump’s base doesn’t care about his choice to bomb Iran. They’ll cheer him on as being tough for uhmuricah when he does drop bombs but pretend they always said they’re “against unnecessary war” when he babbles his isolationist rhetoric.
Most of his base is vastly more concerned with his backtracking on his promise to release the Epstein files than they are about Iran.
From what I saw the fact that he failed to pull out of Ukraine and started bombing Iran did rankle a lot of maga, including very prominent ones like Carlson. They also connect this all to Epstein and Israel now as well. It’s all become one huge betrayal for the people who thought he’d stop the wars and drain the swamp. There was a good interview on the whole thing with Max Blumenthal
Again, it’s very clear that his base wanted isolationism, and they’re now very upset at him for bombing Iran. I don’t know why you’re unable to acknowledge this basic fact of the situation.
They did not and they are not. I’m not debating this, I’m telling you. They supported him and his cabinet being open about wanting to bomb Iran leading up this. They supported him and his cabinet when he bombed Iranian officials in his first term. They still support him and his cabinet after this. They are supporting him in his continued threats against Iran. Whatever it means for them to be “upset” in regards to this it does not translate to any opposition to his actions past, present or future with intent to bomb Iran. I don’t even know what you mean by it. They lit fireworks in my neighborhood right afterwards in the suburbs of west Florida where there is no shortage of Trump supporters. Were they fireworks of anguish? Were they so very cross at him? No, of course not. I have not come across a real world Trumper that thinks the bombing of Iranian nuclear sites was a mistake. Those people are outliers and their discontent has no call to action and is therefore meaningless in the realm of politics where they will vote for it again and again. Call me a Calvinist if you must: only actions matter.
What are you even talking about here. Carlson ripped Cruz apart over attacking Iran, he’s as prominent as it gets. It’s very clear that there’s a huge rift forming in the republican base right as we speak.
Listen lemmylib.
Cucker Tarlson is not indicative of the majority of Republicans and I don’t even assume that his interview is anything more than shit-stirring for views. He’s an opportunistic little worm, that one. But even assuming his “anger”, if you can even call it that, is transferred to the average Republican it has in no way translated to any loss of support for Trump at all whatsoever. At best a few Republicans grumbled, even more cheered, and they’ll vote for it all again. You sound like a delusional lib posting on TikTok “TRUMP IS DONE NOW HIS SUPPORTERS ARE FINALLY TURNING”. They are not. Not even a little bit. Not for this.
The only thing I’ve seen Trumpers even remotely begin to waver on is the import tax shit because it’s starting to hit their budget and small business. Maybe the cuts to medicare/medicaid will be another sore point but we won’t see that for a while.
Get a clue, jfc.
Ah yes, now I’m a lib when I point out that you’re braying nonsense. Let’s just look at what’s actually happening.
Get a clue, and stop embarrassing yourself here. jfc.
Thanks for posting this. I don’t have to get evidence for my claims when you provide them for me. 3 links and not one supports your claim that people are mad at Trump over the Iran bombing but rather for other things that are directly affecting them, which is what I’ve said.
Lemmy users are something else.
Thanks for demonstrating that you have an incredibly superficial understanding of the subject you continue to try and opine on. If you bothered to watch the Blumenthal interview I linked above, you’d see why I posted these links and why they are relevant. The Epstein case has become the focal point for the anger at the system, and Israeli influence, which is directly connected to the war with Iran. The maga base is increasingly seeing Trump as being controlled by Israel.
The fact that somebody could have a more narrow understanding of what’s happening in US than a maga chud is frankly hilarious.
Lemmy users are something else.
This is the sentence that comically exposes your liberalism and I don’t think you even realize why.
the fact that you keep calling me a lib is really the most hilarious part of this whole discussion to be honest, and I don’t think you even realize why
The problem with this discussion is that his “base” is being treated as a monolith when the fact of the matter is there are both significant numbers of isolationists and warhawks who are diehard Trump fans. I don’t know what the breakdown is for the percentage of each one, but I think it’s probably safe to say that the majority of Trump’s base doesn’t care about his choice to bomb Iran. They’ll cheer him on as being tough for uhmuricah when he does drop bombs but pretend they always said they’re “against unnecessary war” when he babbles his isolationist rhetoric.
Most of his base is vastly more concerned with his backtracking on his promise to release the Epstein files than they are about Iran.
From what I saw the fact that he failed to pull out of Ukraine and started bombing Iran did rankle a lot of maga, including very prominent ones like Carlson. They also connect this all to Epstein and Israel now as well. It’s all become one huge betrayal for the people who thought he’d stop the wars and drain the swamp. There was a good interview on the whole thing with Max Blumenthal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMr_dE7KDY0
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: