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  • rainpizza@lemmygrad.mltoWorld News@lemmygrad.ml•US and China agree to drastically roll back tariffs in major trade breakthrough
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    2 days ago

    But you did make a value judgement(arrogantly if I may add)… 🙄 Your intention was clear as purified water… As clear as the moonlight

    When you said “China capitulated”, you implicitly told all of us what your standard is which is “China should have continued with their pressure and they lost if they didn’t continue” and the rest of interpretations are not good enough. You implicitly told us your strong preference for your main interpretation rather than actually measuring the rest of the interpretations available. Also, you don’t need to write “should” to make a value judgement.

    If your true intention was to measure all of the interpretations available and examine if yours was the closest to the correct answer, then a better wording will have suffice and it will have help a lot if you didn’t double down on this:

    So you agree that China is more interested in maintaining business as usual than putting pressure on the US?

  • rainpizza@lemmygrad.mltoWorld News@lemmygrad.ml•US and China agree to drastically roll back tariffs in major trade breakthrough
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    2 days ago

    I said the Chinese had an opportunity to significantly pressure the US economy and did not take it. You are arguing that they shouldn’t have taken the opportunity to pressure the US economy. We aren’t having the same conversation.

    As I said before, your option will speed up the war effort which means activating all of the puppets and US occupations in Asia(Philippines, Taiwan, ROK, Japan and others). It will also unite the US capitalist class. It will lead the US into turning plenty of countries in Asia to ucranization where there citizens are kidnapped to the frontline.

    I wouldn’t call that an opportunity but a mistake that will lead to bloodshed of many.

  • rainpizza@lemmygrad.mltoWorld News@lemmygrad.ml•US and China agree to drastically roll back tariffs in major trade breakthrough
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    2 days ago

    This is a very narrow minded way of interpreting geopolitics. Your option doesn’t contemplate that it will heighten the war efforts against China and may unite the US capitalist class that is currently fighting against themselves in keeping profits from China or going with the industrialization plan. Your argument also doesn’t contemplate that the Global South haven’t yet built strong diversification options from the USD.

    Also, you are ignoring that the actual capitulation was the US and this was explained through plenty of news shared by @yogthos@lemmygrad.ml in c/worldnews. The US through Trump wanted to destabilize China economically and they found that it failed. Not only that but it exposed the different factions within the capitalist class that don’t want to lose profits from the chinese market. Also, all of the tariffs exposed that the US is an unreliable partner and that helped plunge the support for the US globally.

    Adding to what IHave69XiBucks mentioned, this helps China to keep working their plans on BRI and BRICS and allows them the opportunity for other countries to diversify from the US economy. Diversification is a MUST for all of global south economies. Otherwise, we will never be free and socialism will not advance as long as their are a capitalist faction within their countries that favors US trade.

    They still have no interest in serving as opposition to the US and when they do, it’s like with the Russians, only after they are forced by the west.

    There is no need to be an open opposition. What matters most is that the opposition is within the imperial core and within their capitalist class.

    Internal divisions are more harmful for the empire and their capitalist class rather than external opposition as you ideally suggested because they weaken the collective strength and create internal conflict that has been shown over and over again.