Liberalism hasn’t existed for a thousand years, smoothbrain.
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Leftists can pat themselves on the back for knowing this all they want… but the truth of the matter is that even leftists themselves have largely fallen for the propagandistic myth that liberalism is (somehow) “less” right-wing than it’s fascist co-conspirators.
Just the introductory Wikipedia page on liberalism makes it perfectly clear that liberalism fetishises the very “ideals” that all but ensure the power and privilege of the already-wealthy at the expense of everyone and everything else (you know… the power and privilege that fascism exists to protect through the use of unbridled state violence) - yet I do not see leftists coming up with any bright ideas to fight liberalism in the same way that leftists oppose fascism.
but they don’t
agree withknow anything about “the left” so they’re to the “right” of them.FTFY.
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Anarchists and Marxists throughout the agesEnglish54·4 days agoWhat “infighting?”
There is no “in” here - tankies are enemies. No ifs, ands or buts.
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Anarchists and Marxists throughout the agesEnglish68·4 days agoTankies are not that honest.
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Cuz baby, I'm an anarchistEnglish01·8 days agoTl;dr:
I’m not disagreeing with you.
No point in wasting time on them anymore.
I’m afraid it goes a lot deeper than that. I don’t think the left really grasps the true nature of the relationship between liberalism and fascism. Biden had to lose to allow the other lot in… if liberals are seen to wield the stick (as opposed to the carrot), liberalism becomes useless to the ruling elites. And that’s really the way our (so-called) “liberal democracies” have always worked - the liberals do the lying, the fascists do… the other stuff. The only difference now is that the Oct 7th attack has shone a spotlight on a lib regime and caught them with their hands stuck inside the genocide cookie jar.
This is something all antifascists will have to grapple with - it doesn’t matter how good you become at beating up fascists… if you are only beating up fascists you are only hurting the part of the weed that’s growing above ground. If we can’t find effective ways of problematising and confronting liberals and liberalism itself, we are simply playing wack-a-mole… until the liberals hand the mole the keys to all the tanks, of course.
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Cuz baby, I'm an anarchistEnglish01·8 days agoI still won’t believe that leaving a black woman holding the bag the Dems took turns shitting in when it became obvious that they were utterly losing is some kind of coincidence.
masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.comto Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com•Cuz baby, I'm an anarchistEnglish11·9 days agoIf you think you can actually radicalise liberals you probably haven’t tried talking to them during an election year.
It’s much easier to de-extremify (or even radicalise) a fascist than a liberal, and the reason why is pretty clear to me now - liberals are far, far more invested in the maintenance of the status quo than the rank-and-file fascist is.
Where are these ideas?
Where do you see this?