free_casc [comrade/them]

No, I currently work with my union who has a lot of DSA-adjacent type stuff going on. Most of this is just online and IRL yapping, just to get the juices flowing in people who have a left-of-liberal mindset.

I might be down to have more specific conversations with people who have an established account on here (like you), so DM if you’d like to carry that on a bit.

I don’t think revolution will happen in the imperial core, but we can fight for social democracy and force the federal government to shut it down. It would be a great experience for liberals to see their electoral movement get shut down on their faces. Those are the circumstances under which people will shift left into joining an outright socialist org (perhaps a party?) that has a regional focus. I hope to be in the mix when that happens ofc (maybe I’ll see you there??)

Let’s do it!

Cause we are still chock fucking full of liberals who are barely ready to fight for fucking anything (including basic social democratic reforms that they already believe in). Theyre coming around to “the illegitimate colonizers of the United States government have nothing to offer you and never will, so we might as well focus on the illegitimate colonizer state governments which at least offer a smaller playing field for us to actually do a couple things to stabilize ourselves with some succdem shit” type of thinking.

If we can rouse some real grassroots direct democratic support for some succdem shit, then the US will be forced to crush it and heighten internal tensions, or let it slide and the West coast might actually start to believe a better future is possible.

The average west coaster has views to the left of the Democratic party at both the state and national levels. Objective right now is to make that apparent, and jdpon don is doing a lot to help that along. “Hey CA! if the feds are actually going to cut all of your federal funding, why TF are you sending them 30% to get nothing in return?”

I already know that there are Cascadia state agencies that are preparing to reject the Trump admin funding that comes loaded with “you must cooperate with ICE” and “you must hollow out your DEI completely” strings attached. Looking forward to the US weakening its own taxation authority, cause it releases some obvious fucking questions, even for liberals! MSM will have a very challenging time trying to spin that narrative if it takes root among “progressive liberals”.

Anyway, the ingredients are there, we just need to turn up the stove this summer and get it simmering. If Dems lose in 28, “West coast independence” will be a viewpoint at the fringes of the mainstream in 2030. Won’t be any more controversial that “yeah I’m a Bernie fan, off if you think it’s ‘unrealistic’ or whatever”.

More and more people are saying it!

This is all factually correct, but I hope Californian comrades are talking to their local liberals about this stuff. “Normie” types don’t like what’s going on and are down to think about what life would look like without Trump in the picture.

“Yeah if they cut all federal funding, then why are we paying ~30% as a state to the US? Let’s just stop, what’s the worst that could happen?”

This has never been in the media before so you can finally kick of an actual political conversation that has very few existing brainworms.

Maybe in a decade “West coast secessionist” viewpoints have a space in the conversation, although at the fringe of the mainstream (thinking along the lines of “alt-right”). This sort of internal tension is bad for the empire and good for the global south. I think socialists should be advocating for it. We know that the Democratic voter base, and even many Republican voters are to the left of the Democratic Party on a lot of social issues. Weakening the DNC means we could actually get some socdem shit done while things are unstable and on decline.

Ideals don’t drive the wheels of history, but they do steer them. As you said, this is not something that is practical materially, but on the ideological battlefield, we need to wield it as a rallying point for something to the left of neoliberalism. If everything goes well, you’d probably get the West coast to be another Canada tbh. Maybe would even make sense to annex in to Canada?