• TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml
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    Conservatives believe value is pulled from the aether by priests who are capable of communing with factories.

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      The crazy fuckin thing is this is what they’re accusing socialists of doing in the comments:

      All of that sounds like it is intelligent, but the premise that value is in the object rathet than of the object makes it entirely moot.

      There was more than one comment like this. Everything they say is further proof they’ve never once read a book and understood it, much less any socialist literature. Otherwise they wouldn’t say shit like this knowing it’s yet another essential concept in Kapital.

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        What gets me is how they don’t consider reading socialist theory, even just as opposition research. You’ll find plenty of socialists who have read economists like Keynes and Rothbard, politicians like Obama and Bush, or even nonsense like Mein Kampf and the Unabomber manifesto. I know I’ve read these authors, not believed a word of it, but took the time to understand what they were saying and what arguments they were making.

        You don’t see this among liberals and reactionaries post-Cold War. They’re so high on the End of History narrative, they no longer feel the need to do any due diligence. Condoleezza Rice, for example, has a degree in Soviet Studies. It’s why she rose through the ranks of the GOP: she was one of the foremost experts on communism from a NATO perspective. But she’s been tossed aside, with everyone jumping on the Trump Train.

        You’d think they would consult her regarding the current Russian-Ukrainian War or something…nope! Degrees are for nerds (plus she’s black).

    • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Conservatives think that value is pulled by the heroic owners like teeth from the unwilling, slothful, slovenly working class, and Im starting to realize that when I point out to them that wage labor under capitalism is inherently exploitative by forcing one to work for their survival needs they think this is a good thing