I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.

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    “Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant

    That’s NOT true

    The World Health Organization disagrees with you, as does the American Psychological Association. I don’t know how to tell you “this disease is fake” in a more definitive way than “All of the experts on this subject say it’s not real”

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      I agree with you like 90% but I don’t think you can say it’s not real at all just because they decided (for now) not to classify it as a mental disorder. There definitely exist people that have a very unhealthy relationship to pornography that it very negatively impacts their lives.

      I agree it’s way overblown due to religious brainworms tho.

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        I won’t disagree that there are people who have an unhealthy relationship with porn that negatively impacts their lives.

        But that is not what makes an addiction, and a lot of that unhealthy relationship is caused by the stigmatization of porn in the first place.

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            Addiction requires more than that. At the very least it requires dependence, tolerance, and cravings, which porn addiction generally does not have, and usually requires some level of withdrawal symptoms which porn absolutely does not have.

            Another important distinction is that stopping porn consumption generally does not improve outcomes and in fact can make them worse. If I stop smoking cigarettes, after enough time the nicotine cravings stop, and the negative effects of smoking (coughing, lung cancer risk, being stinky) begin to fade. Stopping porn consumption does not make people suddenly able to have healthy, anxiety free sexual relationships, and tends to increase anxiety and shame.

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              Dependence, increased tolerance and requiring more and more extreme porn, and cravings are all present in individuals with porn addiction.

              There are people who are addicted to everything, including things like Minesweeper or Sudoku or cleaning. How you can stake out the absurd position that there’s no such thing as porn addiction is absurd, when sex addiction is well documented and hits the same mental stimuli.

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                You are fundamentally incorrect and need to read the scientific literature on this. Like, this is not a matter of opinion, what you just said is equivalent to saying “vaccines cause autism,” we have research on this and your claims are not backed up by the evidence.

                I’m not gonna talk to each of those points I’m just gonna tackle the first one, there is no evidence of porn dependence. What you’re mistaking for “porn dependence” is almost entirely anxiety, depression, and shame relating to sex and pornography.

                If having a sexual experience with another person is anxiety inducing and you’re ashamed and can’t communicate well about it, it’s going to be hard to perform sexually, and you won’t have this issue with porn because there isn’t another person involved. Thats not dependence, it just kinda looks like it because “I can get hard when I’m watching porn but not with my girlfriend”

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                  I don’t trust capitalist porn-industry aligned “studies” that directly cut against the lived experience of me and everyone I know as well as Marxist feminism and practical common sense. The fact you could say that porn addiction doesn’t exist is absurd, just say it’s overstated. It absolutely exists just like sex addiction

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                    I don’t trust capitalist biomedical-industry aligned “studies” that directly cut against the lived experience of me and everyone I know. I know that vaccine gave my son autism.

                    I love anecdotal evidence! i-love-not-thinking

                    Actually that would be more valid than your claim, because some biomedical research is funded and operated by the biomedical industry, whereas research on the effects of pornography aren’t funded by the porn industry like, at all.

                    These are studies done by universities, which generally have a relatively conservative environment, and definitions agreed on by major health organizations including the WHO. The PhD student researching media ethics and writing her dissertation on the effects of pornography is not a secret stooge of the porn industry, and she’s far more knowledgeable on this topic than you are.