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What do you mean by that? I’ve tried to be…let’s call it more vegan myself.
Is there any socialist framework for veganism? I’d see the exploitation of labour as always, and maybe that of resources, but maybe not a sort of symbiotic relationship with nature stemming from
socialist theory.
I’m probably missing plenty of theory in this regard. (And all regards, even, tbf)
Or something like what jason hickel says in his Degrowth book “Less is More”, but from a socialist perspective.
For some reason a lot of vegans turn to anarchism and there is not much marxist stuff on veganism around. Personally I view veganism as a sort of abolishionist movement that seeks to abolish the exploitation of both nature and other sentient beings as far as practically possible. Given the enormous usage of land and the enormous environmental impact the meat and dairy industry has, most of which is put on the shoulders of the Global South, I see it as a logical thing to strive for a society that is as vegan as possible.
What I meant with my statement is that many communists tend to kneejerk into ‘white privilege thing!’ as soon as they hear veganism, ignoring many different vegan practices around the world. It’s like a speedrun infighting word to use in communist circles I feel.
i really like how you frame it through abolitionism
communists often either don’t talk about veganism at all, or are quite condescending to it, saying that its bourgeois / consumer focused logic etc.
there is a lot of stuff written by anarchists that focuses on exploitation and speciesism, which I find quite convincing personally