I was told that it may lead to easier or faster release, and I imagine I might be targeted to be imprisoned if I push it if I don’t bring an ID, but I feel like that’s bullshit but I don’t think I should leave it to chance

Would you bring an ID to a protest?

(Did I accidentally start a struggle session?)

  • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.mlEnglish
    411·
    2 days ago

    Go read Lenin’s Leftwing Communism an Infantile Disorder, join an org, and start propagandizing socialism to the masses, you fucking lib.

      • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        23·
        2 days ago

        spend a month in jail (if you’re lucky),

        What in the world? Protestors are pretty regularly let out the next day, a whole month is quite a while. You can also try to avoid getting arrested, even if you do break the law. A lot of protestors that get arrested, get arrested as a statement.

        Pickets are a form of protest, often when we strike other workers showing up is appreciated, and it’s something that has definitely lead to real material change. It’s not quite a revolution, but it could very well end up as one in the future.

          • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            17·
            2 days ago

            My point was that you shouldn’t get arrested as a statement, because that’s why most people get arrested. If you protest reasonably (either don’t break the law, or do break it but make a concerted effort to get away), you probably won’t be arrested.

              • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                27·
                2 days ago

                Oh my god literally my point ahhhhhh yes let’s all go join the Reasonable Protests for Change. Millions in the streets over the last few decades, you feel all that CHANGE yet?

                How do you expect those millions in the streets to move further leftwards if you aren’t there talking to them about what would be more effective action for the outcomes they want?

                  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    10·
                    2 days ago

                    how do you expect them to move leftwards after watching that not happen in real time all this time?

                    I have watched people move leftwards in real time though? I remember Occupy Wall Street. I remember the american left being literally non-existent back then. There has been an extreme growth of everything to the left of Obama in the time period since he was president, there was literally nothing before.

                    If you think people have not moved leftwards you either haven’t been around that long or you haven’t been watching. The american left may not be large but it has grown massively in the past 20 years.

                    I genuinely can’t understand where the idea that people aren’t moving leftwards comes from. They clearly are, it is obvious.

              • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                16·
                2 days ago

                Did you just ignore the words in the parentheses? Getting arrested is not “reasonable protest”, while Palestine Action is “reasonable” action because they weren’t just handing themselves over, they successfully pulled off illegal effective sabotage.

                Also, the Russian Revolution featured quite a lot of effective reasonable protests, before it devolved into a civil war.

            • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
              2·
              2 days ago

              You’re missing that the speaker in that meme is meant to be completely unreasonable. There’s no reason to say the meme is ableist by the site’s de jure standard. Not that I like its standard either.

        • manuallybreathing@lemmy.mlEnglish
          10·
          2 days ago

          Comrade, you might consider taking a break from the internet, or hexbear in particular, your hostility is pretty off the charts in this thread

          go and do something fun, disagreeing with people online isn’t that important