@Alaskaball@hexbear.net@CARCOSA@hexbear.net sorry to bother you both with this, but surely this isn’t the official policy of db0, an anarchist instance that we are federated with? That it’s OK to say nearly 30 million people deserved to be murdered and ethnically cleansed by fascist colonialism because they were citizens of the USSR and therefore “Authoritarian”? I have to believe that these moderators don’t represent instance policy there.
Yes this is no bother and quite disgusting to he honest.
However inaction was predicted by some mods. I mean sure sometimes hexbear users go into divisionsby0 posts to discuss and argue but I am very sure that we don’t have hexbear users making “provocateur” posts in their communities let alone celebrating the death of millions, no?
Even on the topic of historical disagreements and violence between ML and anarchists I know hexbear users would focus on the historical events or ideological discussion not “lol all those anarchists deserved to die”
Let’s see if any examples can be found for hexbear users making “provocateur” posts.
As long as this user who is encouraging members of divisonsbyzero to make posts that celebrate genocide is a member of their modteam it is not a safe instance to federated with.
If you would like to make a defederation request it is understandable as this goes beyond one admin or one user and speaks to what content is ok for an instance as well the fact that of we remain federated there is no way to know that we won’t have more of their users encouraged by the provocateur to make gleeful posts about the death of millions aka genocide.
If you would like to make a defederation request it is understandable as this goes beyond one admin or one user and speaks to what content is ok for an instance as well the fact that of we remain federated there is no way to know that we won’t have more of their users encouraged by the provocateur to make gleeful posts about the death of millions aka genocide.
I’ll personally hold off on requesting anything until this is concluded fully, because what I’ve seen from other db0 users has not been like this and I’d rather give the instance a chance to correct this problem.
Thanks for the reply, glad to see our admins are on top of this.
I have to say, I’ve generally seen OK posts from other db0 users. Nothing that would have led me to believe that they would say or condone anything like this.
Yeah, I personally dislike the instance owner and have found them totally rancid in the past, but not only have most db0 users that bother to post here been alright, I think the instance owner has gotten a lot better (not that I like them now, but I respect them in some facets) to the point that I’m surprised they’re okay with this.
All they did was cite a “faux pas” of trolling on another forum with no commentary on the content, and said that outing _crypt was a bad thing to do that reduces trust!
A young divisionbyzero person was manipulated by cryptagion in the divionsbyzero matrix chat into posting that soviet citizens deserved genocide and the admins are blaming the young person for snitching instead of the person that gleefully says that millions of Soviet citizens deserved to die.
As far as their public statement in that thread, that’s what db0 said. Unruffled had a somewhat sterner tone in that thread toward crypt, but then nothing transpired as we can see from this thread.
That’s true, I forgot about that. Still, I think that was prior to the user in question majorly crashing out all over that thread and explicitly saying 27 million people deserved to be genocided, so that opinion might have changed.
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net @CARCOSA@hexbear.net sorry to bother you both with this, but surely this isn’t the official policy of db0, an anarchist instance that we are federated with? That it’s OK to say nearly 30 million people deserved to be murdered and ethnically cleansed by fascist colonialism because they were citizens of the USSR and therefore “Authoritarian”? I have to believe that these moderators don’t represent instance policy there.
Yes this is no bother and quite disgusting to he honest.
However inaction was predicted by some mods. I mean sure sometimes hexbear users go into divisionsby0 posts to discuss and argue but I am very sure that we don’t have hexbear users making “provocateur” posts in their communities let alone celebrating the death of millions, no?
Even on the topic of historical disagreements and violence between ML and anarchists I know hexbear users would focus on the historical events or ideological discussion not “lol all those anarchists deserved to die”
Let’s see if any examples can be found for hexbear users making “provocateur” posts.
As long as this user who is encouraging members of divisonsbyzero to make posts that celebrate genocide is a member of their modteam it is not a safe instance to federated with.
If you would like to make a defederation request it is understandable as this goes beyond one admin or one user and speaks to what content is ok for an instance as well the fact that of we remain federated there is no way to know that we won’t have more of their users encouraged by the provocateur to make gleeful posts about the death of millions aka genocide.
I’ll personally hold off on requesting anything until this is concluded fully, because what I’ve seen from other db0 users has not been like this and I’d rather give the instance a chance to correct this problem.
Thanks for the reply, glad to see our admins are on top of this.
You are welcome, let’s hope as I agree there are hundreds of members of divisions by 0 that we delightful.
It is sad one genocide enthusiast with a penchant for manipulating young people is without consequences.
I hope enough db0 users know about this shit and not let it slide
I dunno, the db0 posters that come to hexbear posts have been cool, but I had to block the instance as a whole. Way too many shit takes from shitbags
Personally have always seen db0 as a historically illiterate radlib instance.
I have to say, I’ve generally seen OK posts from other db0 users. Nothing that would have led me to believe that they would say or condone anything like this.
Yeah, I personally dislike the instance owner and have found them totally rancid in the past, but not only have most db0 users that bother to post here been alright, I think the instance owner has gotten a lot better (not that I like them now, but I respect them in some facets) to the point that I’m surprised they’re okay with this.
In defense of the owner, I’ve not yet seen them express an opinion about this, so they might not actually be okay with it.
They sort of did:
https://hexbear.net/comment/6581332
All they did was cite a “faux pas” of trolling on another forum with no commentary on the content, and said that outing _crypt was a bad thing to do that reduces trust!
So I have this right:
A young divisionbyzero person was manipulated by cryptagion in the divionsbyzero matrix chat into posting that soviet citizens deserved genocide and the admins are blaming the young person for snitching instead of the person that gleefully says that millions of Soviet citizens deserved to die.
As far as their public statement in that thread, that’s what db0 said. Unruffled had a somewhat sterner tone in that thread toward crypt, but then nothing transpired as we can see from this thread.
That’s true, I forgot about that. Still, I think that was prior to the user in question majorly crashing out all over that thread and explicitly saying 27 million people deserved to be genocided, so that opinion might have changed.
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Idk, on .ml nearly every time i see db0 user in thread about communism or imperialism it’s always either antitankie anarkkkidy or ordinary (rad)lib.