People perseverating over LLMs being used for text formatting is honestly getting tiresome. The figures in the article are interesting, even if the framing is garbage. However, garbage framing has been the staple of western media long before AI.
right now I’m complaining about you posting a right slanted slop article from The Atlantic, I used the fact that you’ve posted ai written slop articles in the past as a point of comparison.
As people with functioning brains, we can read an article critically. You’re doing a lib thing here complaining that the article is slanted the way you don’t like. If I avoided reading every article that has a slant I don’t agree with, I’d have to basically stop reading western media all together.
I did read the article. What exactly is the value add of “our students are falling, unlike in the prelapsarian epoch when they weren’t because real teachers gave them real tests” to a discussion about education?
Yeah, so just looking at the raw data from the article is pretty sobering in my opinion. Basically, after improving in the early 2000s, test scores started falling around 2013 and pretty much any progress that was made has been reversed at this point. In 2024, 33% of eighth graders were reading below basic, which is the highest level since 1992. For fourth graders, it’s 40%, the highest since 2000. The average ACT score hit its lowest point since the test was redesigned in 1990 with the bottom 10% doing worse than they have in decades. In fact, the lowest performing 13 year olds are scoring at lows not seen since the NAEP tests began in the 1970s, and the achievement gap growing in 49 states.
awful article. this is as embarrassing as when you post articles written by ai.
People perseverating over LLMs being used for text formatting is honestly getting tiresome. The figures in the article are interesting, even if the framing is garbage. However, garbage framing has been the staple of western media long before AI.
right now I’m complaining about you posting a right slanted slop article from The Atlantic, I used the fact that you’ve posted ai written slop articles in the past as a point of comparison.
As people with functioning brains, we can read an article critically. You’re doing a lib thing here complaining that the article is slanted the way you don’t like. If I avoided reading every article that has a slant I don’t agree with, I’d have to basically stop reading western media all together.
I did read the article. What exactly is the value add of “our students are falling, unlike in the prelapsarian epoch when they weren’t because real teachers gave them real tests” to a discussion about education?
Yeah, so just looking at the raw data from the article is pretty sobering in my opinion. Basically, after improving in the early 2000s, test scores started falling around 2013 and pretty much any progress that was made has been reversed at this point. In 2024, 33% of eighth graders were reading below basic, which is the highest level since 1992. For fourth graders, it’s 40%, the highest since 2000. The average ACT score hit its lowest point since the test was redesigned in 1990 with the bottom 10% doing worse than they have in decades. In fact, the lowest performing 13 year olds are scoring at lows not seen since the NAEP tests began in the 1970s, and the achievement gap growing in 49 states.
I just now realized that we are in /c/news and not /c/slop, lol.