https://xcancel.com/TPUSA/status/1976301627662340207#m
https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/turning-point-usa-super-bowl-halftime-show-bad-bunny-1236544746/
There’s a chud meta right now of getting outraged about Bad Bunny
https://xcancel.com/TPUSA/status/1976301627662340207#m
https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/turning-point-usa-super-bowl-halftime-show-bad-bunny-1236544746/
There’s a chud meta right now of getting outraged about Bad Bunny
Would Trapt or Drowning Pool consider a fascist music fest, though?
The one time I saw Drowning Pool — I’m not a fan, it was at a festival — the festival tried this higher tier bullshit where people who paid more (like 5x more) could get closer and everyone else had to stay back. The band wasn’t informed, so they asked why their fans had to stand so far back while some rich fucks played on their phones in the slam section. So they told the fans to tear down the barrier, and all those rich fucks scattered quick. So while I don’t know their politics, I don’t think they’re a good fit for the Fourth Reich.
I don’t know Trapt’s politics at all, but instinctively I say “how fucking dare you” because Trapt was awesome back in the day. They made one of the few songs I prefer the radio edit to. The album version of Headstrong is too profane. The radio version was fine. It could have used one “Fuck off I’ll take you on” at the end (I mean if the radio version were on the album) to switch it up, but “Back off I’ll take you on” just sounded better to me. But also my least favorite of their singles. Black Rose, Still Frame, Waiting… there were a few others.
I know bands like that are still around, but they were all so good around 2008-ish. I feel like for good rock music in 2025, you gotta look at Japan. They’re killing it over there, while it’s all commercial stuff over here. (That said, I like what I’ve heard from the new Taylor Swift album. Not a fan, but decided to check it out. Way better than I would have thought. But pop isn’t really my scene.)
When it came out that Bodies was blasted into the cells of Guantanamo Bay as part of the sleep deprivation torture they do there, Drowning Pool’s bassist made a statement in favour of torture and US military abduction sites like Gitmo. Source
Drowning Pool even played a concert there. Source
Seems pretty fash imho.
Oh shit, I actually remember the stuff about hard rock/metal as torture. A lot of bands spoke out against it. A few were in favour of it, like “if the military is using our music to support our troops, fuck yeah” and while that statement in and of itself isn’t that bad, it’s still on the wrong side of sus. So, yeah. Not a big fan.
I seem to remember Disturbed was against that sort of thing. Then again, their singer is very pro-Israel (his grandfather is from there; the whole band is from Chicago though) and he’s said things like “I would fuck Britney Spears in the ass, so they (pop stars) are good for something.” Oh shit, as I recall he prefaced that by saying “in the words of my boy Dave from Drowning Pool” so that’s kind of fucked up. I forget what concert/live video it was but it wasn’t some bootleg thing as I recall, I think it was something at least on YouTube. Then again, they were also one of the bands that would stop the show if someone fell down in the mosh pit (though, so do a lot of metal bands).
Fuck, I didn’t know that about Drowning Pool or maybe I just forgot about it. Obviously Skinny Puppy had the right response to their music being used at Gitmo.
wait the second generation of nu metal wasn’t commercial, and the new Taylor swift is good?
this has to be a bit right?
Drowning Pool? Not entirely sure, but that whole flaming skull biker MACHO BADASS thing is chud coded to me. Plus, I found this on the Wikipedia page about their latest album: ” that he was "vocalist Jasen Moreno explained that he washesitant to talk about the lyrical content. I’m being evasive because of cancel culture and all that.” :sus: Although the main reason I used them as an example is that they played Sturgis in 2020 (as did Trapt), which was a very chud thing to do.
Trapt? Definitely, their singer is a huge MAGA chud who kept getting into fights on Twitter. Apparently the Trapt account is still banned
Shit, I didn’t know.
Honestly I’ve seen so much band drama over the years I kinda stopped caring unless it’s really egregious (like Ted Nugent and Kid Rock). I don’t wanna be blind to stuff, have my head in the sand, but at the same time… “I’m tired boss” and I just wanna enjoy the music. (Sorry if that sounds like a cop out, or moving the goal posts.)
What do you recommend from Japan? I know they’ve got great post-rock, but that’s a pretty different thing.
One of my favourite bands is ONE OK ROCK, but they’ve basically been an American/California band for about a decade now. They’re all Japanese citizens and they’re from Japan, but they’ve lived here for 10 years and their last few albums have been all/mostly in English. Still counts as Japanese rock and they’re largely ignored here, it feels like. They have their fans though and we love them. Clock Strikes is my favourite of their old-style songs. The opening and chorus is English, the verses are Japanese. Dystopia is an easy recommendation off the newest album. This is all in English. Or at least the publicly available version is. This is a special version made for Japanese audiences. If you listen to the song on streaming, the Japanese parts will be in English. They do that sometimes. Anyway, it’s only a couple lines and it sounds cool. This is a good song, but it also highlights their shift from hard rock to pop rock.
A similar example that is “more Japanese” is Survive Said the Prophet. And apparently there might be some bad blood between the two? Any time someone suggests it would be awesome if they co-headlined a show, the “real fans” are right there to say it’ll never happen, but they won’t elaborate. Right and Left is a song they did in English. This one’s a lot of fun. Kinda has a late 90s/early 00s “get up and dance” kinda rock sound. Conversely, here’s a heavier song they do that is almost all in Japanese (but it has English subtitles if you wanna know what he’s saying). This one is called MUKANJYO and it was actually the opening theme for the anime Vinland Saga, which is partly “Japan’s answer to the TV show VIKINGS” but I think it’s also more historically accurate? I heard that somewhere. Like it’s based more on history, less editorialised/westernised. No anime tropes to speak of and it went hard when it came to the violence (as anything relating to Vikings should).
Lastly, I’ll also recommend MAN WITH A MISSION. These guys are not furries, but you’ll never see them without their wolf costumes. They’re actually way weirder than furries. Their band has a (fictional!) back story: they are aliens who were discovered by Jimi Hendrix, frozen in Antarctica, and discovered by explorers. It doesn’t make a lot of sense. It doesn’t really need to. They make hard rock that is fun, sometimes a little serious, sometimes nostalgic. They’ve also done softer songs, e.g. with Japanese pop star milet, for the Demon Slayer season 3 opening and ending. (Anime is the big hit maker for Japan now, what MTV used to be in the West in the 80s and 90s, it guarantees bands in Japan an immediate international audience. Anything I haven’t declared as from anime, isn’t — I’ll tell you if it is.) My Hero was the opening theme for the anime Inuyashiki: Last Hero, and the music video has a superhero theme. (Note that I said Inuyashiki not Inuyasha — the latter is a kids show about a dog-like ninja warrior (I think he’s also a demon, but a good one?) and the former is an extremely violent miniseries.) Memories is another song that sounds like it’s from the 90s. This one is in Japanese without subtitles, but I feel like I can understand what they’re talking about. Not really, it just has a vibe to it.
And that’s just the guys… plenty of girls who rock from Japan, too.
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