Bill Burr simply understands that to explain to americans that other people are human beings you have to explain it in burgers.
I thought they were going to be riding magic carpets and rubbing lamps and shit but nope, they also Live Mas.
Baja Blastin their way through the Mountain Dunes!
I’m not a Burr fan but if I was gonna “devil’s advocate” him here a sec, I think he’s just saying see people do normal ass things acted against what he was propagandized to believe.
i agree with you. Granted he still is taking money from people who put journalists into suitcases so he’s really lost all credibility. I guess he would perform for Trump. The Saudis have slaves who don’t look too dissimilar from Bills wife.
so does america. i really don’t get the extra hate for our good buddies the Saudis like these entertainers and whatever aren’t living and working in the good ol’ USA the rest of the time making money for horrible people at home.
Being paid directly by the crown does hit different. Performing within the US is one thing, performing specifically for Trump would be something else
Also he lives in the US so it’s not like he had a choice when starting out. It’s more of an issue when foreign entertainers choose to move to LA and NYC after they’ve already made it in their countries and are living very well compared to the average person in their home country.
i’ve heard of entertainers getting some local heat for “selling out” and switching to english or whatnot but i’ve never seen that be about the great satant in the way anyone who does anything with the saudis is criticized for that.
Cause they live at home?
I wouldn’t criticize a Saudi comedian for living and performing in Saudi Arabia, it’s a legitimate job and you have to work where you live. If a Saudi comedian was paid millions by Donald Trump to come to the USA to go and perform for him then I would criticize that.
If we’re comparing apples to apples here it’s only fair you invert the entire scenario
One could be extremely generous and say that this is a joke designed to make sense to liberal Americans, not Hexbear communists
Seems like an asshole regardless
he’s kinda known for being one
This was my first thought. I mean entirely likely he’s just an asshole, but also entirely possible that he is purposely trying to frame this in a way to be funny to Americans while also trying to de brainworm them a bit. I can’t say I agree with that as a tactic but it certainly could be
mildly generous
If I were to attempt justify this I’d point out the hypocrisy that all these comedians regularly preform in the US with no criticism despite it’s also atrocious human rights record
I’m not a Bill Burr fan or detractor, he’s got a progressive radlib energy means sometimes he says the right thing but here that I think has led him to making a bad decision (going to Riyadh comedy festival, in a country which basically has slavery, untold misery etc ) for lib reasons (the people in Saudi Arabia are normal like us)
in a country which basically has slavery, untold misery
he left the us
I’m reading this joke as tongue in cheek. He’s saying the first part as a dig on Saudi Arabia and specifically the journalist dismemberment. Then the “punchline” is “but they have Starbucks!” which doesn’t preclude the first part.
He’s also not the most pro-America person either and while the Saudis might hear a “they’re just like us” joke as complimentary, I think it’s more of an insult to both countries.
He has some pretty good takes about billionaires and capitalism then he says something this pants on head?
americans are not intellectual people, to put it mildly.jpg
i’ll be honest, this isn’t to go to bat for him, i refuse to do that for anybody, but i always feel like he acts like he’s conscientious of the fact he has a platform, and ALSO has an extremely low opinion of that audience’s intelligence, so he tries to perform “baby’s first empathy” to a cohort who has had their natural empathic responses for outgroups methodically suppressed from birth.
which means if you’re ahead of his curve he comes off as an oaf
but he can take accountability for his own cringe, that’s how i’ve been reading him for years tho.
Bill’s entire shtick is being oafish and appealing to contrarians. This is just melding together the goal of being edgy and contrarian while simultaneously trying to get people that find that edgy contrarianism humourous to see muslims as normal human beings.
The kinds of people that like that oafishness are exactly the kinds of people that need to be taught to see them as humans.
Just because someone has some good takes, doesn’t mean they’re all good
A lot of people have good domestic policy and dogshit international policy
that goes for everyone here too… we all have some good takes, but none of us have all good takes
Except for me, The One Perfect Communist
we all have some good takes
not all of us
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Bill Burr truly is the embodiment of an American.
he also is a landlord who talks about how there is too much hate for landlords
Mfw they aren’t shouting death to America
Someone should show him that post with the map of Applebee’s in Saudi Arabia
Bill sold out like 12 years ago when he moved in to a gated community next to celebrities. This is normal for him
i mean being in gated community doesn’t make you ignorant, that comes by itself
It’s both, obvs many people are naturally incurious, but living in a gated community often shrinks your daily in-person interactions down to the people also living in the gated community, thus you are not exposed to the views of those outside it as regularly, thus increasing your ignorance of them, unless purposeful effort is made to curtail that trend
He moved to one of the richest areas in the world. But also he was ignorant then too considering his stand up jokes would target women as a whole, but when it came to men it was always sub categories (rich or racists) or himself, but never all men.
at first i thought that netflix movie he made with Bokeem was making fun of out of touch rich people and rich people neighbourhoods, but actually it was mostly making fun of millennials and people that don’t yell at their kids
You think everybody’s going to be screaming “death to America” and going to have like fucking machetes and want to like chop my head off, right?
That’s an entirely reasonable reaction to the presence of Bill Burr though
Unrelated to Bill, but my Saudi friend is always shocking me with stories of just how treatlerfied and American Saudi Arabia is, crazy stuff.
I think a lot of people from the global north would be shocked at just how heavy America worship is in the global south.
give it another year or two and they will literally be driving around in lifted pick-up trucks with MBS flags saying “Make Saudi Great Again” and driving them into churches to do mass shootings
there already is a market for lifted pickup trucks in Saudi Arabia because of the little American villages full of American oil workers. A coworker of mine worked at Saudi Aramco for three years and had a lifted F250 imported from the states. But he says a bunch of people there had trucks like that, including the Saudis.
the idea of Ford Pickup Trucks spreading across the globe like that truly disgusts me
Invasive species of vehicle displacing the native Tacoma all across the region
lifted pick-up trucks with MBS flags saying “Make Saudi Great Again”
I’d be lightly shocked if their weren’t already examples of this or something close
i just don’t get why he even did the festival. he has enough money and income from his fans that he doesn’t need to do it. what’s another 400k to someone like burr?
some of them are getting $500,000 for a 1 night show or whatever and a free trip across the world to be wined and dined. they can’t resist.
If I’m a comedian with any sense I’m taking the trip and the money and gathering my material for the Ripping Saudi Arabia a New One Tour that starts when I get back. Sure, I can’t make fun of them there, but I’m making them regret inviting me in the first place.
Wow, they even have a Pizza Hut! Did you know much how effort I had to go through to bring that kind of freedom and opportunity to my people?
this is sarcasm right?
I’m really not familiar with Bill Burr’s work and on first read assumed this was a self deprecating joke from him guesting on like Jimmy Fallon or some shit.
Bill Burr has become Hank Hill in the new season
They had me at Chillis
In the mind of the average burger there’s no difference between Lybia, KSA or Iran ‘there all freedom hating Muslims and there all in the middle east’
The “israeli” genocide and the 12-day war with Iran are really resurfacing early 00’s style Islamophobia and I don’t know how to be normal about it.
Gets off the plane and runs to the nearest Chili’s
a plane full of americans had to go 16+ hours without any highly processed slop…
