People really seem to struggle to realise how different they are. Hamas is not ISIS, that should be obvious to anyone with cursory knowledge on the history of the region. Hamas, Hezbollah and Ansar’Allah are not going to, nor have the capacity to, gut gay people and women who don’t wear a niqab or hijab. They are not Salafists, for the love of Christ.
The only reason people compare these wildly different groups, is because they all (at least claim to) adhere to Islamic principles. If you think for even a second, you’d realise how ridiculous this is. It’s like comparing the CDU to the KKK or even the Spanish Falange because they’re all Christian, in some way or another.
It’s plain ridiculous, though the liberal (and conservative) types never seem to get it.
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If you were in Gaza right now, would you feel that the Al-Qassam brigades who were actively fighting off the IDF invasion, literally the only people between your family and obliteration, are “fundamentalism and wingnuttery”? If you were in southern Lebanon, after each generation of your family being devastated by losing siblings and children to Israel “mowing the lawn” every couple of years, would you think that Hezbollah is only there to control you even as they successfully fend off the 2024 invasion?
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Can liberals stop doing the
atheist “If they just stopped believing in a freaking sky wizard, the whole conflict would end
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The religious/ideological conflicts that you’re talking about are only the superstructural manifestations of contradictions that exist within the material base. Israeli settles aren’t joining the IDF because they read it on the Talmud. Gazan youngsters aren’t joining the resistance because they read it on the Quran. They are engaging in a struggle that is a part of the global imperialist system, founded on material conditions of colonialist violence and the displacement of indigenous people across the globe. This struggle takes place across multiple dimensions of identity, including religion, ethnicity, gender, and other such factors, but you must understand that these dimensions are not the primary contradiction across which we are to understand the conflict, but across class. It is the class character of the settlers and the resistance that actually informs the struggle and helps us understand how a resolution could take place. The utopian fantasy of a world where “everyone just stops believing in nonsense” is completely useless liberal claptrap.
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I still maintain that a large root cause of Middle East conflict is not entirely caused by, but largely informed by, religion. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, and their sects, all add fuel to the fire.
Then explain why OG Zionists like Herzl as well as influential Israeli politicians like Meir and Ben-Gurion were atheist Jews who don’t even believe in God. They obviously didn’t need to believe in God before stealing land from the Palestinians and justifying their theft from a God they don’t even believe in.
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It’s a very uphill battle. Chauvinism is completely pervasive and consumes the mind of the vast majority of Westerners, who still consider themselves to be in the vanguard of antiracism when, in actuality, they’re very ignorant. I’d at least show them this statement from Hamas after the death of Pope Francis, I found it very empathetic and comforting.
The Islamic Resistance Movement extends its deepest condolences and sincere sympathy to the Catholic Church worldwide and to all Christians on the passing of His Holiness Pope Francis, Pope of the Vatican, who passed away after a distinguished career in the service of human and religious values.
The late Pope Francis was a noted advocate of interfaith dialogue, calling for understanding and peace among peoples, and rejecting hatred and racism. On more than one occasion, he expressed his rejection of aggression and wars in the world, and was one of the prominent religious voices to condemn the war crimes and genocide being perpetrated against the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip.
While we, in the Islamic Resistance Movement movement, value his moral and humanitarian stances, we emphasize the importance of continuing the joint efforts between the bearers of divine messages and people of living consciences to confront injustice and colonialism, and to support the causes of justice, freedom, and the rights of oppressed peoples.
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