I forgot to set a reminder so I’m a little late getting to this, but here we are again:

Are you a “tankie”?

Respond “yes” or “no”, I’ll collate results later

This process is being undertaken to determine if so-called “tankies” are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!

vague or informal answers will be interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments will be counted. I will not be providing further instructions or clarifications.

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Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,ml

Link to previous “are you a tankie?” thread

I’ll likely check back in a week, my old pc died so itll take a little bit of time to prettify the results and write a report

Ciao, and of course, imperialism must be destroyed.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    In that “tankie” is just a pejorative for a communist, yes. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, and I uphold AES as legitimate.

    Workers of the world, unite! ☭

    For those who don’t know what a “tankie” is, it’s essentially a pejorative for “communist.” I recommend the Prolewiki article on “Tankies,” as well as Nia Frome’s essay “Tankies.”

    For those that want an introduction to Marxism-Leninism, I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list, check it out!

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        Oh god oh fuck I’m the type of commie that isn’t obsessed with millitary equipment I didn’t study oh god oh fuck

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      What is AES in this context? I’m pretty sure it’s not encryption or a corporation lol

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          I can see the difference between these and EU, but isn’t EU mostly socialist? Like France for example, isn’t it considered so? Assuming socialist ≠ Marxist.

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            No, the EU is all capitalist, in every economy (even the nordics) private ownership is the principle aspect and governs the large firms and key industries. Financial capital and by extension imperialism are the dominant forces in society.

            In the countries I listed, it’s the opposite, public ownership is at minimum the principle aspect. Some are more heavily publicly owned, like the DPRK and Cuba, and others have more market forces at play, like Vietnam and the PRC, but in all cases public ownership is principle.

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                Algeria is more complicated. It has had a long history of communists and socialist revolutionaries such as Frantz Fanon, but is currently a capitalist country. It’s far better than imperialist countries like France, and has been very progressive in opposing imperialism and colonialism, but isn’t considered socialist.

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    I’m a moderate and believe in supporting the lesser of two evils, which means critical support for enemies of US imperialism. I’m also something of a centrist because I believe anarchists and Marxist-Leninists and other left tendencies all have good ideas.

    So yeah, I’m a moderate centrist.

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    I’m a liberal. I know the power that democracy bestows: vote.

    Fighting fascism? Vote hard.

    Fighting genocide? Vote harder.

    Fighting cancer? You guessed it, just vote.

    Vote solves everything, vote is beautiful.

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    Yes but do note that most people who call themselves a Tankie do it ironically to make fun of those who do not know its meaning if it even has one nowadays, It’s commonly used by liberals and even leftists to simply refer to anyone to the left of their own politics, although not sure why I’m answering this since my instance and profile is practically wearing a red beret.

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    I’m an anarchist though I do get called a tankie quite a lot as a pejorative.

    I’m opposed to all states. That said as someone who lives in the west I don’t really care to spend a lot of energy being mad about what my governments state enemies are doing.

    ‘democracy’ in capitalist states is a cruel facsimile of actual democracy. If you don’t have money for rent you might as well be unpersoned, corporations are people and money is free speech.

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    “Tankies” don’t exist.

    People who unironically use the word “tankie” would say it’s someone who uncritically supports communist governments, but if you ever look at someone using it, it’s always because they are uncritically against all communist governments and so they interpret nuance or historical understanding as blind loyalty to communism.

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    Tankie is when a third worlder socialist shares the most Milquetoast leftist opinion.

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    Yes.

    That answer is only for my own country America, I do not have strong opinions for other areas and countries.

    And I realize the term is broad, and gives connotations I do not intend.

    A socialist movement that is backed by force, and not using democratic methods, would save far more lives than it would destroy.

    Americans do not understand democracy because they do not understand, at a fundamental level, that ballot counts need to be witnessed and recounts always allowed.

    They cannot be taught that. This removes reform by democracy.

    But when reform is imposed on by force there are many who would disagree . So the revolution would need to defend itself. That means time and time again, this would happen repeatedly. And the cost would be horrible.

    Of course my preferred solution would raise new problems, and a rise of a new elite would have to countered, and history shows that is hard. But I think because tens of millions of Americans will die if this revolution not happen, then it’s worth it