• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    In other news, the Kirk Memorial was basically a Nuremberg rally.

    Wheee yaah… this is not looking good.

    EDIT:

    I would describe this youtuber as an actual, genuine centrist, not a crypto nazi, got a lot of sensible ideas and some ignorant ones… I use him as a barometer for basically non brain poisoned normies who have a college degree and a functioning brain, but also come from a blue collar area and are … more culturally traditional.

    Basically, a guy who is kinda problematic if you do a deep dive, but you could probably have a beer with and be reasonably good to ok friends with.

    And he is in horror, reviewing Miller’s speech.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KSYjqB_Q-8

    The… original intent of his channel was a travel channel, showing people how US life compares to working and living overseas.

    EDIT 2:

    Large Man here missed this, but I will point out that Miller saying ‘We are the storm’ is an obvious Q Anon reference.

    Like I said, he’s not internet brain poisoned enough to know.

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    I wanted to look up the statistics for myself and see what the numbers are, given a room size scaled around 1 person dying from firearm related injury. I chose people dying from firearm injuries because I had a hard time finding a statistic for all people who were shot. If you are aware of better sources for my numbers (or a math error on my part), please let me know. I primarily used sources from the US government, but I recognize that those sources might not be completely transparent right now. Also, I don’t mean for this to undermine the intention of the author here. Every issue mentioned is absolutely a problem in america, regardless of arbitrary comparisons. Also also, transgender people are valid and deserve rights regardless of how many people are shot per year.

    Say you’re in a room with 2,584,401 people. 206,752 don’t have insurance. 273,947 live in poverty. 542,724 are illiterate. 596,996 suffer from mental illness. And every day at least 1 person dies from firearm related injury. But 21,192 are trans so you decided ruining their lives is a priority.

    The population of the US was 341,140,964 on 12/31/24.

    92% had health insurance in 2024.

    10.6% lived in poverty in 2024.

    79% were literate in 2013. (Hopefully there is a more recent source for this somewhere)

    23.1% suffered from mental illness in 2022.

    132 died from firearm-related injury daily in 2022. This is the number from the CDC, which is more generous than gunviolencearchive.

    The number of injuries (including deaths) from the gunviolencearchive puts the daily count at 87 (I am rounding up despite 2024 being a 366 day leap year).

    0.82% identified as transgender.

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      I appreciate the effort to improve the methodology. But the numbers feel too big to be grasped easily, compared to the original.

      Maybe the time frame can be changed? If we bump it to “1 person will be shot to death this year” it would make it a room full of 7080 people and 58 are trans

      Edit: full data set rescaled

      7080 - total

      566 - no insurance

      750 - poverty

      1487 - illiterate

      1635 - mentally ill

      1 - gun death per year

      58 - trans

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      I appreciate you providing sources, genuinely, though I will point out the way the US officially measures poverty is laughable bullshit.

      https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/dd73d4f00d8a819d10b2fdb70d254f7b/detailed-guidelines-2025.pdf

      Yep, thats right, you live alone, and make or otherwise recieve more than $15.6k a year?

      Not in poverty.

      Also, the average paid rent in the US is ~1350 a month.

      https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-rent-by-state

      So… 1350 x 12 = 16,200, meaning a person below that is probably just literally homeless or nearly totally reliant on family or friends or the state for housing and food, as they have literally less than 0 money for food, on average, without some kind of assistance.

      I would argue the actual US poverty line needs to be drawn at between where 200% and 300% of the current poverty line is.

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    The room has a >91.25% annual shooting rate?

    I don’t want to brag, but I’ve been living in the United States for 25 years and I haven’t been shot once. If the room resets annually, my odds to this point were 3.55x10^-27. Am I the last American?

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    Err, that’s a nice little quip but that bit about shooting isn’t even remotely close to reality.

    Example: There’s about 80,000 - 100,000 gun related injuries in the USA per year. That’s about 250 people getting shot each day. However, we are working against a population of ~330,000,000 in the USA. If you take the 100,000 / 333,000,000 = 0.0003. That’s 0.0003 per year per person. So the chance of a person getting shot in a year in the USA is about 1 in 3,330.

    To look at this in another way, the fellow said there’s a group of 400 people and 1 is shot each day. That means in 1 year, nearly everyone in the room would have been shot, and in 2 years some people would be shot twice.

    Look, the USA is pretty disgusting with some issues, but if you want to throw numbers around, at least make them accurate, otherwise it undermines the whole argument.