I need a new vpn and don’t know which one I should get, any recs?
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AirVPN if you need port-forwarding for torrents.
Otherwise Mullvad or IVPN (Mullvad is cheaper). Mullvad is also removing support for OpenVPN and will be just using WireGuard, so if you need OpenVPN for any reason, you will need to use one of the other two.
Also, if you are using a VPN for the sake of privacy...
I would instead look into using Tor or I2P. Being private and secure involves a lot of ongoing research, maintenance, and care, and a VPN is not generally a good way to be private. There’s no set it and forget it option. It’s better to use a VPN for port-forwarding, circumvent geo-blocking to access media, hide IP from gaming in P2P servers, etc. Otherwise, I would recommend looking into virtualization, using QubeOS and Tails, hardening Firefox, etc.
If you use Linux, here are a few good resources to harden your OS:
- https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Security
- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Category:Security
- https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-manual/index.en.html
- https://kspp.github.io/Recommended_Settings.html
- https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/guides/linux-hardening.html
- https://github.com/trimstray/linux-hardening-checklist
Mullvad yes, proton and riseup maybe
I recommend Mullvad bevause you can pay anonymously with cash or anonymously enough with a voucher.
Proton also accept crypto which can be anon
Mullvad, IVPN, and AirVPN all support crypto. They all do not require email accounts, too.
I do not recommend Proton for many reasons.
They support Israel.
https://proton.me/support/protonmail-israel-radware
https://protonvpn.com/blog/israel-vpn-servers/
They supported the 2020 Hong Kong protests.
https://protonvpn.com/blog/hong-kong-servers
This comment from Lemmygrad explains why Proton may be a honeypot and to be wary of VPN services in general.
https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/361523
Here is a list of potential issues with ProtonMail (including their onion site deanonymizing Tor users when they create an account by redirecting them back to their .com address):
https://encryp.ch/blog/disturbing-facts-about-protonmail/
Some practical reasons I don't recommend Proton
- Port-forwarding on linux is shoddy.
- Proton treats Linux and its open source community as second-class citizens.
- ProtonMail Android app is slow as hell. Takes several minutes to load an email and is basically unusable.
- 3+ year old issues never get fixed: https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge/issues/180
Never said they didnt.
Yes you should be vary of VPNs but obviously also your ISP. I know mine is selling my data, I just don’t have any options. If I would do something highly ileagal I would obviously not really on just a VPN and trust them. That would be one stepping stone of several.
HK have read yet Isreal yea thats bad but still far from PIA etc. Looks mullvad is the better option. Scary there is so few recomendations in general.
Yes you should be vary of VPNs but obviously also your ISP. I know mine is selling my data, I just don’t have any options. If I would do something highly ileagal I would obviously not really on just a VPN and trust them. That would be one stepping stone of several.
It is a stepping stone, but can be hit or miss depending on your ISP and VPN. I made some alternative suggestions to improve your privacy and security here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5674063
But given that Proton gave the French police a climate activist’s IP information which led to his arrest, despite claiming to store no IP logs and then deleting the claim on their website, it’s better to recommend our fellow comrades other VPN services that have a better track record at this time. Proton has proven time and time again to be untrustworthy, and it’s a very reactionary company that fights against socialist nations and supports countries like Israel, Taiwan, etc., which you can see by looking at its blog.
Mullvad gang
