“It’s crazy how NYC DSA members are more fascist than many actual Nazis at this point towards disabled ppl. At an event for Trump’s inauguration w literal Nazis in attendance I was masked, multiple ppl there put on masks, asked if my health was ok, one told me abt his sick grandma Nazis are fascists but ironically IRL can be very welcoming & accommodating, hence they are able to effectively radicalize ppl. They show more empathy IRL in spaces they’re recruiting in than these DSA ppl ever have. It’s abhorrent, and another reason the “left” has zero power.”
She had a completely exceptional experience with fascists making an accomodation for her disability and made the mistake of assuming that experience was representative of the right. But I think the core of her point, that the left doesn’t make sufficient accomodations for immunocompromised people, is correct. Some of our immunocompromised comrades on this site have talked about having the same problem, they couldn’t get organized because local DSA or other orgs’ chapters didn’t want to ask people to mask up (or wouldn’t enforce the mask policies).
She’s making a hasty generalization to argue something that is itself very reasonable.
i don’t think she’s even doing that. note this part:
They show more empathy IRL in spaces they’re recruiting in [emphasis mine]
it seems clear to me from her words that she doesn’t like that this was her experience, that “leftists” have not been as willing to try to accommodate her while recruiting. and that shows part of why they’ve been effective in radicalizing people. as long as you’re not against them (and you’re not visibly not white or not hetero), they’re willing to try to get you to be with them.
hence they are able to effectively radicalize ppl.
I’m not American so maybe I’m mistaken here, but my impression is that if you go to stereotypical right wing social spaces like churches, country clubs, right wing bars, etc they’re not going to start masking up because one immunocompromised person showed up and asked for that accomodation.
that is exactly correct, and i think that’s why the context of this tweet is important. there’s also undoubtedly both a racial and gender component to that reaction by them: namely that taylor lorenz is a young, normie-looking white woman. there’s nothing that a nazi of this variety would find immediately confrontational about her. in other words, they probably assumed from her immutable characteristics that it was worth their time to be accommodating to her for the sake of recruitment and PR.
She had a completely exceptional experience with fascists making an accomodation for her disability and made the mistake of assuming that experience was representative of the right.
They are really good at doing that, it’s like they can smell when someone is vulnerable and easy to influence and will play nice in this one instance in order to trick people into thinking they aren’t absolute scumbags.
she’s literally saying that it’s abhorrent that literal Nazis, in the context of their recruiting, have been more kind and empathetic than social democrats.
I think a lot of her critics are arguing against her as if she was saying the fascists are more correct than the left because of this, but what she’s saying is that the left easily can and should change this one thing so more people can get organized.
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“It’s crazy how NYC DSA members are more fascist than many actual Nazis at this point towards disabled ppl. At an event for Trump’s inauguration w literal Nazis in attendance I was masked, multiple ppl there put on masks, asked if my health was ok, one told me abt his sick grandma Nazis are fascists but ironically IRL can be very welcoming & accommodating, hence they are able to effectively radicalize ppl. They show more empathy IRL in spaces they’re recruiting in than these DSA ppl ever have. It’s abhorrent, and another reason the “left” has zero power.”
She had a completely exceptional experience with fascists making an accomodation for her disability and made the mistake of assuming that experience was representative of the right. But I think the core of her point, that the left doesn’t make sufficient accomodations for immunocompromised people, is correct. Some of our immunocompromised comrades on this site have talked about having the same problem, they couldn’t get organized because local DSA or other orgs’ chapters didn’t want to ask people to mask up (or wouldn’t enforce the mask policies).
She’s making a hasty generalization to argue something that is itself very reasonable.
i don’t think she’s even doing that. note this part:
it seems clear to me from her words that she doesn’t like that this was her experience, that “leftists” have not been as willing to try to accommodate her while recruiting. and that shows part of why they’ve been effective in radicalizing people. as long as you’re not against them (and you’re not visibly not white or not hetero), they’re willing to try to get you to be with them.
I’m not American so maybe I’m mistaken here, but my impression is that if you go to stereotypical right wing social spaces like churches, country clubs, right wing bars, etc they’re not going to start masking up because one immunocompromised person showed up and asked for that accomodation.
that is exactly correct, and i think that’s why the context of this tweet is important. there’s also undoubtedly both a racial and gender component to that reaction by them: namely that taylor lorenz is a young, normie-looking white woman. there’s nothing that a nazi of this variety would find immediately confrontational about her. in other words, they probably assumed from her immutable characteristics that it was worth their time to be accommodating to her for the sake of recruitment and PR.
They are really good at doing that, it’s like they can smell when someone is vulnerable and easy to influence and will play nice in this one instance in order to trick people into thinking they aren’t absolute scumbags.
DSA worse than Hitler confirmed
Come on.
she’s literally saying that it’s abhorrent that literal Nazis, in the context of their recruiting, have been more kind and empathetic than social democrats.
I think a lot of her critics are arguing against her as if she was saying the fascists are more correct than the left because of this, but what she’s saying is that the left easily can and should change this one thing so more people can get organized.