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    Shielding Children’s Retinas from Egregious Exposure on the Net Act

    I FUCKING HATE THIS CONTRIVED BACKRONYM SHIT FUCK EVERY CONGRESSPERSON WHO THINKS THEYRE CLEVER OR QUIRKY WHEN THEY DO IT

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    Gamers are the fucking reason the GOP isn’t an irrelevant laughingstock and this is how they repay them?

    Progressivism never took root in chanlords because gamers didn’t see themselves as oppressed nerds but as temporarily embarrassed jocks.

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      The Jack Thompson impulse always re-emerges, bannon trying to make a freeze-gamer coalition or no

      ed: I assumed “gamers” would be the Mr. Freeze “gamers” emoji, and it wasn’t

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        That’s why it’s fun to go back and look at pdfs of old gaming magazines from the 80s and early to mid 90s, it really was quite a niche subculture. You’d have these small 5-10 developer teams making just the oddest, but fantastic games that you only ever see in indie games rarely nowadays (itch.io is a fun place to go for those kinds of weird, off the wall games these days). Once the Playstation/N64 era took off gaming just getting progressively bigger and aiming for the lowest-common denominator of players. I still game but rarely ever big AAA games, mostly its retro games/hacks on emulators and indie games.

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    All the biggest dipshits (in this case weebs) getting what they wanted (a right wing government) is so fucking funny to see.

    I wonder how the maga small business shitheads are doing with the tariffs

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    Much of pornography is violent and degrading, glamorizing assault, physical abuse, and non-consensual acts.

    Why are conservatives/evangelicals so obsessed with how violent and abusive porn is? Sort of a self-tell

    I saw porn as a kid, but I wasn’t really seeing or seeking out anything harmful. It was mostly about seeing attractive people naked and sometimes having “vanilla” sex.

    I’ve always thought I had a “porn problem” but now I realize my normal sexual desires were demonized my entire childhood, and I really don’t even care if kids see porn. Its definitely not worth any of this surveillance shit.

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      Why are conservatives/evangelicals so obsessed with how violent and abusive porn is? Sort of a self-tell

      I oppose the recent wave of policy censoring these things because both the immediate applications and ultimate goals are obviously antisocial, but speaking to the broader issue that is being referenced here, who do you believe is allowed to discuss the issue of the extreme normalization and eroticization of SV in porn (and also in “normal” anime like Fire Force)? I can’t think of who could talk about this and not be regarded with default suspicion here.

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        I think we can definitely talk about that stuff. And I think we should especially listen to sex workers on the issue.

        Growing up in evangelicalism, I was taught that any porn consumption will eventually lead to needing porn that depicts SV, because they labor on the theory that porn is a drug, and you need “stronger porn” to get the same buzz.

        In reality, I think the people who pushed this line of reasoning were actually the violent misogynistic freaks, and 13 year old me just wanted to see boobs

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          Growing up in evangelicalism, I was taught that any porn consumption will eventually lead to needing porn that depicts SV, because they labor on the theory that porn is a drug, and you need “stronger porn” to get the same buzz.

          In reality, I think the people who pushed this line of reasoning were actually the violent misogynistic freaks

          Obviously they were chauvinistic creeps, but you’re narrowing the most broad idea of criticism of depictions of SV down to what some cranks say about something that explicitly isn’t a depiction of SV (because the point is that they falsely claim it still feeds into depictions of SV). I feel like this doesn’t connect to my question at all.

          And I think we should especially listen to sex workers on the issue.

          I assume you specifically mean actresses and models, and if we’re talking about things like working conditions, their rights to their faces, etc. then obviously that’s true. But again, that doesn’t really feel to me like it’s addressing the issue I was asking about, because I’m not talking about the production of pornography, I am talking about the reception of pornography, about the sorts of images and messages some of it has (because again, I’m mostly talking about depictions of SV and the like here, not porn generally).

          I repeat my question: Who is allowed to criticize the depiction of SV and not be regarded with baseline suspicion before even considering the merit of the criticism? Forgive my presumption, but I am assuming that you aren’t suggesting “sex workers” is an exhaustive list, because surely if a sex worker offers criticism that is correct, it’s not necessarily because of some incommunicable trait that is unique to their personal phenomenological experience, but because they have thoughts and information that can be relayed to other people meaningfully, and that other people could also produce. Which is to say nothing of the huge amount of porn that doesn’t have any sex work involved in its production (because it’s drawn or something).

          Speaking for myself, this seems to me like a topic where sex workers would certainly have interesting and helpful things to say, but social impact of media isn’t especially what their fields usually are, and this is a topic that people do study and which should have empirically observable principles. We should obviously regard stories like the one you tell where people just make up stories full of logical leaps about human psychology, but I don’t think that invalidates criticism that is more carefully considered and empirically grounded (and almost assuredly coming from another group, because looking at the patriarchal elements of most porn, there is a lot that conservatives would refuse to acknowledge even if they understood it).

          I don’t expect for my perspective to be seen as particularly valuable, and that’s fine, but can I suggest that you see the other person who I spoke to briefly in the replies to this comment? You might be interested in what they have to say.

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        who do you believe is allowed to discuss the issue of the extreme normalization and eroticization of SV in porn

        TW: sexual assault

        I’m against noncon/dubcon, whatever label they use to mean rape. This porn is usually used to glorify rape, showing graphic depictions. I’m ok with touching on the themes to condemn it, but nothing I’ve seen has ever needed it to be shown graphically to make a point and instead turns into fetishization (Goblin Slayer, Outlander, Game of Thrones, etc.). Obviously loli/pedo porn fits under this as well (Made in Abyss). When you’re aware (like a SA victim), you see rape culture around you and naturally think it is sick. I want glorified graphic depictions of rape banned, but apparently only puritanical, prude christofacists want it banned so they can oppress everyone with morals. Fuck that, there is a reason games like Rapelay, Rape Day, and No Mercy get a bunch of attention and are then banned. I am ok with consensual porn (produced ethically, so not abusing the IRL actors/actresses). I support LGBT+. Too many people do not understand consent. Bringing up CNC is moot if you do not recognize the first word of that acronym. Even reading Lemmy is exhausting when you read comments saying rape should never be prosecuted without evidence excluding testimony (aka most people should get away with rape), and then read people defending rape games. I looked at collective shout’s content and g*mers are sending them rape threats. Wtf.

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          Thank you for sharing your perspective. I don’t have the same personal history with it, but otherwise I feel the same way. Well, I dislike Collective Shout from what I know of it, but I emphatically agree with you that concerns about r*pe culture’s expression in media should not just be tarred as “prudishness” glossed over and that kind of rhetoric is disgusting and harmful. I also think it’s concerning that dubcon is borderline the default setting, especially in more anime contexts where often the woman is expected as a matter of form to be telling her partner to stop and then that she is ignored.

          Like, there are some things that I know Hexbear will get wrong 80% of the time, which I won’t get into, but not even being able to handle the criticism het-targeted porn that treats women straight-up viciously is such a miserable low for some of them. They rush so quickly to rainbow-wash it (or some similar tactic) that they refuse to acknowledge that any of it is bad. Sure wonder why. This is supposed to be a fucking communist board, but on this subject they are odious radlibs just as much as the odious radlibs they criticize.

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            I don’t like collective shout overall, they are anti-porn and most likely religious and anti-LGBT. But some of their criticism is correct, like glorified SA and pedo content is inexcusable. Also nothing they have done warrants a rape threat (I mean just going by vibes I don’t think anyone, in general, deserves rape threats) and it is concerning that presumably men are making these threats to these women.

            I’ve seen rape/pedo content in tv shows, movies, books, games, and anime. For SA in anime, it’s used as the victim (usually a she) really wanted it or is a joke. The victim is seen as submissive to the perpetrator. Also dubcon, “dark romance” is popular in otome genres for some reason. I mean that’s the last thing I want when enjoying romance content, is for the person the protagonist likes to assault her. For pedo stuff in anime, always a running gag or just not really addressed.

            I have trouble convincing the lib men I know IRL that rape culture is real and needs to be addressed. Of course I had to go over consent because apparently not everyone is on the same page about that even. Ugh. Thanks for listening :)

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              Yeah, I’m not condoning the r*pe threats, obviously those are bad, but I am pretty sure that they are made by a minority of people and we can’t let CS conflate the overwhelmingly valid criticism they receive for the repugnant shit they do with what some shitty splinter contingent says to them, or act like their overall reception has victimized them when they are much more interested in victimizing others.

              I’m completely on the same page with you on the rest of it. Thanks again for sharing :)

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          You again, there’s always someone. Funny how this keeps happening. Are you the one who defended Goblin Slayer as being soooo progressive before? As much as I hate this sort of apologia, I’m not keeping a list.

          I don’t give a shit about older anime being even worse, Fire Force is an easy example because it’s way worse than the current average. Seemingly every fight involving a woman involves their clothes being burned off, with the camera and animation frame allotment responding “appropriately,” there’s a character who is basically only there to be involuntarily groped and stripped over and over (this being described as “lucky” for the gropers), and then at the end of the manga the author goes on a completely unhinged, postmodern 4th-wall-shattering rant where he says that his being a creep is actually the most life-affirming thing you can do.

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              Was it you before who I asked? My bad. I thought I checked and it was someone else . . . Alright, I looked it up, and it was CrawlMarks who I was thinking of who did that. I think it was because they had a version of “Marx” in the name while downplaying abhorrent SV in an anime that I guess they personally like or something, which made it easy to mix the two up. Still my bad at this point for not remembering or adequately investigating beforehand, to be clear.

              I think that I’m just engaging in wishful thinking to the point of a severe cognitive bias that someone who does these sorts of things is going to be a “That Person” rather than like three or four people on this tiny website that mostly isn’t even about anime.

              Do you have no further commentary regarding Fire Force?

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                I heard great things about s3 and started it back up just to be smacked in the face with fan service. I’m 35 with kids. Fan service is for teenagers and it doesn’t do anything for me nowadays. I remember some truly ridiculous fan service growing up, so the baseline for what’s “shocking” nowadays is shit like “Please Put Them On, Takamine-san”; that was concerning, lol.

                As an artist myself, I don’t want art to be expunged from mature content because art is a reflection of life. It is also a way to question (or promote) the status quo. I think with kids getting exposed to this type of content is a cover for not having to speak to them about consent, sex, or queerness or anything else.

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                  I have no interest in talking about “mature content” in general, and I wasn’t merely talking about “fan service.” I have, from the first comment, been talking about the normalization and eroticization of SV.

                  I do think it’s really disappointing in the case of Fire Force because they’ve got some really lovely animation otherwise (though even by S2 I thought it was getting a little formulaic with the flashing impact frames and such).

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      As an ace person who doesn’t particularly look for porn content, I have to say that the description you quoted definitely fits my perception of most porn content that eventually reaches me.

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      I remember seeking the same kind of thing out as a kid, but all I could find was extremely weird niche problematic fetish stuff. Not my first choice, but it’s all I could find given limited internet skills. It probably messed me up lol

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    I have no idea who this “Chibi Reviews” is but they do not pass the vibe check. Im guessing they are the only one whos talking about this?

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        Is it possible for an anime content creator to pass the vibe check?

        IME absolutely not. Even self-styled “progressives” are still giddy to get sakuga of high school girls and I don’t mean the kind with explosions or fight choreography (fucking Mother’s Basement is so hopelessly brainrotted, it’s almost sad).

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          fucking Mother’s Basement is so hopelessly brainrotted, it’s almost sad

          Lmfao. I challenge anyone to try and watch one of his videos and tell me they honestly understood most of what was said.

          I’ve more or less given up on finding good content creators that cover games or anime. Which is unfortunate because that means the content I listen to while doing chores or something is extremely heavy, leftist stuff. And it’s important to stay aware but goddam do constant reminders of hellworld wear you down.

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            Lmfao. I challenge anyone to try and watch one of his videos and tell me they honestly understood most of what was said.

            I suppose he has that kind of brainrot too (though maybe I share it with him, since I get everything that’s not a vintage anime reference), but I meant the kind of brainrot where what he is saying is very clear and what’s more bewildering is why he saw fit to say it. The “Hottest Trash” videos are prime examples, where every fifth entry or so he starts talking about how hot children are.

            I still listen to almost every video he puts out, but mostly because he’s devolved into being a gourmand rather than an amateur analyst most of the time, and curation is helpful to me since I can’t be bothered to keep up with everything myself.

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              The “Hottest Trash” videos are prime examples, where every fifth entry or so he starts talking about how hot children are.

              Oh my lord. I think that’s a step above brainrot

              curation is helpful to me since I can’t be bothered to keep up with everything myself.

              True. I used to follow a blog for this but since they died it’s been hard to find a good source for a good summary of what’s good.

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              There’s a part of me that wishes I could, but it’s not just a matter of making the effort to produce adequate videos, but also withstanding an eternal tide of weeb reaction, because much of what you’ll get as a reward for offering due criticism. Then, even if you suffer for five years or longer through that shit and cultivate a sizable audience, there will be an even bigger torrent of reaction that might manifest into little campaigns against you. I’ve seen tiny artists and big critics alike get buried in that shit and it gives me anxiety second-hand.