That does not require in any sense queer rights, sexual liberation, generally the right to live one’s life in the way one wants so long as it is not harming others, etc - indeed, given the increased focus on the ‘collective’ and on the ‘community’ there is if anything even more incentive for these states to promote and push the social norms that already exist in the population, which have almost invariably been quite socially conservative and scornful of behavior that is seen as disgusting or outside-the-norm, as tends to be the case in most human cultures in general. Simple as that, in my opinion.

I don’t think it goes simply in one way where collectivism necessarily pushes the norms for countries to be culturally reactionary (besides, beyond the West, collectivism is practically a catch-all term for non-western cultures), it does become if left untouched and left to reactionary attitudes.

I’d say if Cuba, Vietnam and Laos, 3 out of 5 socialist nations still living, can change, I would say just as much a collective community can be destructively conservative, they can also be thankfully progressive.

You have to keep in mind, a lot of these AES that were admittedly socially conservative did not live long enough to be in those days to repent, like their Western counterparts, unlike these three here

I don’t know why but I feel you have fallen for some ‘liberal culture realism’ where it seems like the only best way your cultural identity, if not intersectional identity will exist, would be capitalist-derived liberal society. The way you go about this…

Since these 5 years, as an account… it feels like you mostly complain, at this point, I might suggest you logging off, but then again I’ve heard other people share similar pessimistic attitude, regardless of topic, so maybe you vibe in here

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I think this all just boils down to the fact that ultimately, there will be no liberation for Queer and Nuerodiverse people for so long as we live under the dominion of cishet and neurotypicals people. Whether that dominion uses red flags or not is irrelevant - we need to be able to have our own autonomous communities without the authority of cishetero-nuerotypicals hanging over our heads for acceptance of our abnormal behavior to be anything but tenuous and conditional on varying degrees of assimilation.

Well, while I can’t exactly relate to you in your own shoes, I’d say good luck to y’all and your struggle for queer and neurodiverse liberation