Who would have predicted that replacing Assad with an genocidal Jihadist terror group backed by Isntreal would be bad for Syria.

very-intelligent gun-hubris

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    As someone who’s been a supporter of the Syrian Revolution since day 1

    Jesus, these guys are all really hooked directly into the NGO industrial propaganda complex aren’t they? It’s fascinating to see the perfect “international” liberal wounded like this though.

    is only fair that they hold al-Sharaa to the same standards as they held Bashar al-Assad to. I’ve been very disillusioned and very frustrated (and a bit betrayed) that this hasn’t been happening and makes me suspicious on whether or not some people really cared for liberation to begin with or suffer the similar campist mindset as their Assadist counterparts

    Cynically destroying entire nations just to maintain imperial power? In my anti-communism? But I thought we were liberating people? fell-for-it-again

    The best nuanced course of action I’ve decided on is to support Syrian civil society, its efforts at organizing itself politically… The transitional government is a self-appointed representative who’s mandate and legitimacy to govern can (and should) be withdrawn by civil society when it falls far short of its responsibilities.

    just one more color revolution bro, this time it won’t create a failed state I swear. Just donate to my “civil society” charity that’s totally not a front for more CIA-advised terrorism

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      nuanced course of action I’ve decided on is to support Syrian civil society,

      I hate liberals I hate liberals I fucking hate liberals I hate liberals Jesus fuck me in the shitting christ I hate liberals I hate liberals I hate fucking liberals I hate liberals I hate liberals I hate conservatives too but also I hate liberals I hate liberals I hate

      Chat is it “”“nuance”“”" when I support a country having a functional government? Yeah no shit you ducking dork. Nobody is waking up in the morning and going “Gee, I sure do wish I lived in a society that does the opposite of how I know society works just so things can be the absolute worst.”

      The Germans thought they were doing what was best for civil society when conducting the Holocaust. The Confederacy thought it was doing what was best during the Civil War. The French Revolution, American Revolution, 100 Years’ War, and the fucking Punic Wars were all conflicts where people thought they were doing what was best for “civil society.”

      Liberals are so fucking cartoon brained they think people just want to do evil, instead of people acting in their own class interests to push their class on top. They can’t comprehend people have other points of view because their so high on American Exceptionalist brainworms. So we get hot takes like “I support a country having things everyone already agrees on. We should invade for the thousandth time with our imperialist military and murder a bunch of people in the process while creating the next problem where we have the same solution.”

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        It really is revolting how they act like “supporting good things” and “opposing bad things” is some kind of nuanced and intelligent take, and in turn, act like they are “brave” for being the most basic people imaginable.

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          It makes me almost hate the centrists more than the fascists. Centrists seem to lack theory of mind, the ability you develop around two years old to understand that other people have different thoughts and goals than you do.

          At least the fascists don’t smugly proclaim that they’re the “adults in the room” the only people smart enough to have considered their solution to the problem, and if only you were that smart you surely would’ve come to the same conclusion.

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      makes me suspicious on whether or not some people really cared for liberation to begin

      Ultras and opportunists supporting every single US regime change operation, getting exactly same result every time it succeedes: “makes me suspicious on whether or not some people really cared for liberation to begin” time and time again.

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      It’s so easy for the state department to get these people to support anything (except actual revolutions) by just dumping some “freedom freedom revolution 1984” word salad at them

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          I love the “his own people” thing, it’s such a fucked up little line.

          One, it’s never applied to WW2 Germany. Hitler is never accused of “killing his own people,” I guess because Jews aren’t real Germans to liberals.

          Two, like you said it’s so often just in regards to a civil war, of course they’re “his own people” everyone involved are his people!

          Three, I don’t see why killing people of your country is worse than killing people of another country. In fact I’d argue that the second one is significantly worse!

          States, even the best ones, do kill their own citizens sometimes. It happens, it’s an inherent part of being a state. Killing citizens of another country should basically never happen! Why should it!?

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            We live in a country that killed 1.5 million of its own people with plague, for money, before they stopped counting, and we were expected to suck it up and say thank you even before they started doing a genocide too.

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      The best nuanced course of action I’ve decided on is to support Syrian civil society, its efforts at organizing itself politically… The transitional government is a self-appointed representative who’s mandate and legitimacy to govern can (and should) be withdrawn by civil society when it falls far short of its responsibilities.

      this is just the cherry on top lmao. libs are such cowards.